How big is too big?

The fisting forums are great. There are women and men there discussing vagina enlargement, much the way we practically and clinically discuss penis enlargement. And they have more or less answered “how big is too big” once and for all. There’s almost no such thing as too big.

Seeing the same topics from a completely different point of view has elucidated the topic of too big. They talk about size in terms of width, circumference, and depth. They stretch their vaginas with dildos, and know exactly how much width and depth they can take. Although most of them only care about width, some of them do stretch for depth.

First revelation I read was that for the most part, they cannot change their vaginal depth. No matter how they try, it does not change by more than 0.5” and is limited by the distance from the vulva to the spine. Almost all the women had depths of 6” to 7.5”. This confirms what we know about length. 6 to 7.5 NBP is what most women can take, and then it’s bottoming out. There are deeper women, but they are rare.

Then there’s girth. There is basically no limit on width and circumference, they just keep stretching over time. Any woman can do it, and they get into it in various ways. A 7” circumference dildo is beginner’s territory, 8” and 9” are intermediate, and 10”+ is advanced. Some can double fist even more, basically the entire birth canal because it’s only that thick at one point.

Women who stick to single fisting only, or about 8-9” for dildo girth, report that their pussies go back to completely normal if they stop. Beyond that, there is permanent stretching. And I got the sense that getting up to 7”EG would be very easy for any woman if she really wanted to do so to accommodate a partner’s large penis. And fun fact, women who stretch their vaginas out do not experience vaginal tearing from child birth.

This is all great motivation, and provides such clarity on the nagging question how big is too big. There’s the joy of discovering PE, and then the anxiety of choosing when to stop. Hoping one won’t regret too much of a good thing. And now finally clarity. No practical benefit to going beyond 7.5 NBP unless with a specific girl who is known to be longer. And for girth, the sky is the limit, well 8” or 9” is more like the limit but that is a lifetime of PE. So there is the answer to the question. PE for girth for life, and fear no consequences, any new partner can get accustomed to it, and any long term partner will adjust to gains over time. PE for length into the 6-7.5 NBP range and be ready to bottom out beyond that.

It is a matter of temperament. As the turn down can happen. Adjusting takes time and commitment as well as a lack of fear, cuz the stigma around extreme insertions “ruining” a girl is heavy and causes a woman to feel less valuable as a commodity if she’s “all stretched out”.

My view is based on a guy who doesn’t want excessive complications with starting a physical relationship.

I honestly am glad to read this though. I’ve said permanent change is extreme insertions or trauma. Now…it is REALLY extreme insertions or trauma. I do feel better with you having done this legwork. It confirms most of my functioning views on depth at least.

Cheers to Bearded Dragon!

OK well first of all, the great relief I felt when this new shit came to light is mostly that no matter how much girth I gain, I won’t become “incompatible” with certain women as I incorrectly assumed just earlier in this thread. Like you said though, if I reached an extreme girth of 7+ for example, they may not want to do any vagina stretching. Doesn’t matter to me, as long as I know that if she really wants to, she can take me at any girth, that is all I care about. It’s never a true deal breaker, physically.

I read some more about stretching and permanence, and I must provide more detail. I misrepresented the reality earlier because I wasn’t informed enough. Permanence is just time and force like PE. The more frequent and longer time period they stretch, the more permanent changes occur. A single isolated experience does not cause permanent change. Regular stretching week after week for months and years does cause permanent change.

I’m not into ruining pussy, and neither are most women. There are some men and women who are into that kink and they don’t think of it as ruining. Those with a stretching fetish are typically using toys or extra fingers or entire extra hands to stretch beyond their lover’s penis size, way way beyond, and some of them are into taking it as far as physically possible at any cost, just like in PE.

I don’t think a guy with 7 EG is ruining a pussy by stretching a lover up to his penis size. That is just good sexual skill, knowing how to use one’s size appropriately. There would be permanent changes in repeatedly taking a girl to 7 EG who previously couldn’t take it, as in a LTR. Not pussy ruining changes though. If I somehow ever got to that girth I wouldn’t feel bad about it. The permanent changes from 7 EG seem to be minor, and mostly just a simple increase in capacity.

Permanent looseness is a big concern among some fisters, while others actively pursue it. But they are encountering problems because they’re stretching to 9+ EG on a regular basis. I think our conscious should be completely clear anywhere in the 7 EG range, and 8 EG even from PE is so incredibly rare that it’s just not an issue.

I will likely never even make it to 7 EG, so cheers to PE.

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Good stuff, Dude. I’ll drink to that. But don’t be too sure you aren’t going to hit seven inches erect mid shaft girth, ‘cause I bet you do. The thing about this whole undertaking of erectile function enhancement is that you get better at it the longer you do it. Anyhow, thanks for the great work on this thread. You’ve helped to give me some confirmation.

I just want to say one more thing in order to really tuck this question in and put it well and truly to bed. If anyone ever had a chance to develop and be able to consistently reproduce a natural erection that was too big for a woman to make good use of, it was me. It didn’t happen. It was never going to happen, no matter that I dedicated my life to it.

This morning I was having a good look at what I’ve managed to do with all that dedication. Telling you what I saw right now to many is going to sound maybe strange or unbelievable but I’m just going to let it all hang out anyway. It’s a foot long, at least. Of course not with a measurement standard that doesn’t take account of base development. But looking at the organ from a side or underside view is an entirely different story. My volume has increased significantly from last year when I posted those pictures of me, much more than a single cubic inch. So I am actually talking nearly 40 cubic inches of sticking like a flag pole straight up throbbing hot bone. And it most certainly is not too big.

That’s a lot of meat swaffel! If you were lost on an island, you wouldn’t die starving. That must be invigorating seeing all that flesh hanging between your legs each and every day. But don’t let it go to your head, it could knock you out. ;-)

This is interesting, BeardedDragon. Thanks!

Looks like some people found the green light they wanted to go for huge. Those length limits are not very high, though.

Can’t tell if Swaffel is trolling or legit.. Going to have to see some photographic evidence there pal

He’s got a thread. Validity of the pics has been debated. But it is there, if you want to look.

I believe in swaffle. His dick is the size of an arm. Even if it’s not ‘a foot long’ it’s still fucking huge to the point where I don’t see a reason to quibble. Plus his insights and stories are fantastic.

Oh he has photos on the forum? I didn’t know

Swaffel’s Namba:Let’s talk Health

Oh okay just saw them.. He’s got good size, not entirely sure where he’s getting some of those numbers though

Hmm how big is too big?

I would personally don’t go over 8.5” bpel x 6” meg. (My dream goal is 7.9” nbpel x 5.5” meg, which should be around 8.3” bpel).
Even when I will be in long term relationship.

Ok, girls can take more than 7” girth, but where is the reason for it?
Why to do it when it requires a lot of preparation and time to be able to take that girth comfortably?
Why to go up to 7”+ when 5-6” is most of the time great enough and it doesn’t need almost any preparation?

The only reason I see is when your girth is not enough for your girl. Then try to catch up with her needs by increasing MEG.

I really can’t imagine telling my wife “oh my dear, I am sorry for being that big but if you want here are some big dildoes that can stretch your pussy and then we will have great sex”.

Well but in the end it all depends only, and only on your own priority.
-if you are single and tend to bang random girls

-if your are in long term relationship and have talk about it with your partner

-or if you do not give a fuck…

This is great motivation!! And you’re right when you mention the ‘Joy of discovering PE’. I wake up each morning eager to begin my session before work knowing bit by bit I’m growing and strengthening my wonderful penis, a lifelong buddy who has been there from the beginning and will be there till the very end. His only flaw is he gets quite big-headed from time to time.. :)