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Originally Posted by MasterSplither

Hey, thanks for the replies. I should clarify, I have very little time to put into manual exercises at the moment but I have have a fair bit of alone time doing work at home. If I can use my hands to do work on the computer I have about 6 hours a day. Maybe you’re right about the hanging. If I have to constantly be taking it off and massaging my dick I guess it still isn’t the best route for me. Would love to try it but can’t waste any money if I have to constantly soend time adjusting. Also, I’m working at home right now and might be able to do so for months but I could be called in to work at the office so I might need something that I can wear there and not be visible. At a confusing point of what I should invest in.

I think, :| that you should somehow make time :|.


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"


Last edited by TonyThaTyga : 01-10-2015 at .

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
I used the newbie routine for about the first 6 months, with slight variations on the volume and frequency of workouts. But it was simple stretching and wet jelqs, mostly. Back then I took a week off once every month or two. Now I take longer decon breaks, anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months.

I’ve done a few bouts of hanging, each lasting about 2-3 months, and each giving a little length gain. The last time I did it, I pinched the dorsal nerve and had a half numb dick for a week. That scared me off it for a while, but I’ll probably be doing another round of it later this year after modifying a Bib Hardcore for better attachment. Right now I’m testing out pumping, though.

I think experimenting with decon breaks and new methods to break plateaus are both good ideas after the newbie gains slow down. Keep in mind that after the newbie period, it’s not uncommon for a measurable gain to take several months. Plateaus are the new normal. I’m OK with slow gains as long as they keep coming year after year.


Thank you very much, hearing of others gaining from whatever i’m currently doing always puts my worries at ease. PE 4 life.


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

Originally Posted by MasterSplither
Hey, thanks for the replies. I should clarify, I have very little time to put into manual exercises at the moment but I have have a fair bit of alone time doing work at home. If I can use my hands to do work on the computer I have about 6 hours a day. Maybe you’re right about the hanging. If I have to constantly be taking it off and massaging my dick I guess it still isn’t the best route for me. Would love to try it but can’t waste any money if I have to constantly soend time adjusting. Also, I’m working at home right now and might be able to do so for months but I could be called in to work at the office so I might need something that I can wear there and not be visible. At a confusing point of what I should invest in.

That would be plenty of time to hang, as long as you can take 5 minutes out of each half hour to take the hanger on and off.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" volume 7.3 ci ////// Now 7.4" x 4.9" volume 14.1 ci

BD what is your opinion of having to feel fatigue to gain hanging and/or stretching?


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Fatigue is a good indicator you’ve stressed the target tissues enough to cause growth. It’s not a necessity, but I think if you don’t sometimes feel it, you’re not quite toeing the line of the correct force thresholds and work volumes for post-newbie conditioning. That’s just my experience.

When I was hanging, I experienced it mostly in the ligaments and lower abdominal fascia, and to a lesser degree in the tunica.

I’ve also experienced it from almost every other form of PE I’ve done. Any exercise can cause fatigue with enough volume and force. The difference was that when I was hanging, I didn’t take rest days, so I was feeling fatigue constantly.

Bib’s concept of “riding the fatigue” in hanging is essentially aiming to cause fatigue every day. There are a lot of very good old threads discussing the mechanism of PE growth, and the role of rest. I’m in the rest camp. In other words, I think it’s important to seriously stress the tissues, to feel fatigue; then I think it’s important to rest afterward. But extremely high volume does work for some guys, and I did gain from Bib-style hanging. I think macro level rest, i.e. decon breaks, are more important than micro level rest, i.e. off days, in terms of gains. And that’s why Bib style hanging worked for me. I think micro level rest is more important in terms of general penis health.

Even Bib theorized that the growth in PE happened during rest. He studied the anatomy of collagenous tissues, I’ve looked at some of the info superficially. He theorized that while he was hanging, he was pulling collagenous fibers into a straight aligned position, and while he slept they formed new crinellations, or tiny folds of new growth in the fibers. And then the next day he would pull them straight again. It’s a simplified explanation of a complex biological process. So he acknowledged the actual growth happened during rest, he just believed that 10 hours was a sufficient and ideal rest period.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" volume 7.3 ci ////// Now 7.4" x 4.9" volume 14.1 ci

You good man BD. Thanks a lot.

I’m not feeling much when I stretch. I feel like a stretching sensation on my first stretches but it goes away soon. I’m wondering if I’ll b able to feel fatigue and gain hanging as I’ve been stretching 1h a day and have seen nothing so far. Hope I’ll b able to try it by myself one day….


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Originally Posted by quim92

You good man BD. Thanks a lot.

I’m not feeling much when I stretch. I feel like a stretching sensation on my first stretches but it goes away soon. I’m wondering if I’ll b able to feel fatigue and gain hanging as I’ve been stretching 1h a day and have seen nothing so far. Hope I’ll b able to try it by myself one day….

You can feel as much “fatigue” as you want hanging.


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

I dont want to change the subject of this thread but I got my inbox full. Please MasterSlipper if what I say is not of your interest just let me know.

you sure TonyThatTyga? How much weight can you apply with your hand. I stetch sometimes 1 hours with 5 min hold sometimes and I feel somtimes the stretching feeling but I can stretch as hard as I want and I never got that burning sensation that tells you to stop.


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I’m thinking that hanging might be an option for me after all. I can hang in my current situation and still work. Not sure how long my situation will stay like this but I hope for at least a few months. I never thought I’d ever try it. It seemed a little dangerous but I’m tired of not gaining. Would love to even see an 1/8” gain. Now I have to figure out the best hanger for uncut and research ways to prevent injury. The pinched nerve you described BD is scary to me.

your situatuation is the same as me MS. How long have you done manuals? What routine, what gains? How long it has been you dont gain? Have you tried to increase your routine? Do you plan to take a decon break before jumping to hanging?

I am also uncut. people say hanging with the Bib is more difficult and tedious when it comes to wrap but it is posible. The LG is a good option, if you want to try extender, the PhallosanForte might be the most stealth and confy.

I am looking forward to hearing you gained again. I know a couple of guys who gained hanging after having done 1 and 2 years of manuals. they were very consistent hanging. hope that cheers you up.


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I’ve been PE-ing off and on for about 5 years. There was a few lengthy breaks in there though. One was for over a year. In about my first 6 - 8 months I went from about 6.25” BPEL and 5.75” EG (mid-shaft) to around 7.35” BPEL by 5.9” EG. I got that from variations of the newbie routine. I had to take over a year off and lost some of what I gained and was around 6.75” BPEL by 5.9” EG. After doing the linear newbie routine and building up to a regular routine and trying a couple different routines I gained about .25” back. That was a couple years ago and I haven’t gained a thing since. I’ve tried just about every different manual length routine out there and nothing. I’m stuck and it’s frustrating. I just don’t know what I can’t gain back what I had before.

I would be satisfied at 7.5” BPEL. That would make me about 7”NBPEL by 6.0” EG. That’s my final goal. I heard that people with bigger girth might have more difficulty gaining length but I did get up 0.35” past where I am now. I’m hoping that since I gained it before, there’s something I can try to get me there and maybe a little past it. I’m willing to try devices at this point but will be very cautious in my approach. I don’t mind taking it very easy with the progression to reduce the risk of injury.

Originally Posted by quim92

I dont want to change the subject of this thread but I got my inbox full. Please MasterSlipper if what I say is not of your interest just let me know.

you sure TonyThatTyga? How much weight can you apply with your hand. I stetch sometimes 1 hours with 5 min hold sometimes and I feel somtimes the stretching feeling but I can stretch as hard as I want and I never got that burning sensation that tells you to stop.

You probably won’t from manuals. Yeah i’m sure lol you followed my log while I was hanging ha. All I spoke of was pain. More weight more fatigue.


BPEL: 8.35"/ NBPEL:7.0" /EG: Apprx. 5.5"

Hang. Use heat. Extenders ok. Pray.

Originally Posted by MasterSplither
I’ve been PE-ing off and on for about 5 years. There was a few lengthy breaks in there though. One was for over a year. In about my first 6 - 8 months I went from about 6.25” BPEL and 5.75” EG (mid-shaft) to around 7.35” BPEL by 5.9” EG. I got that from variations of the newbie routine. I had to take over a year off and lost some of what I gained and was around 6.75” BPEL by 5.9” EG. After doing the linear newbie routine and building up to a regular routine and trying a couple different routines I gained about .25” back. That was a couple years ago and I haven’t gained a thing since. I’ve tried just about every different manual length routine out there and nothing. I’m stuck and it’s frustrating. I just don’t know what I can’t gain back what I had before.

I would be satisfied at 7.5” BPEL. That would make me about 7”NBPEL by 6.0” EG. That’s my final goal. I heard that people with bigger girth might have more difficulty gaining length but I did get up 0.35” past where I am now. I’m hoping that since I gained it before, there’s something I can try to get me there and maybe a little past it. I’m willing to try devices at this point but will be very cautious in my approach. I don’t mind taking it very easy with the progression to reduce the risk of injury.

man, over and inch in lenght is most people final goal. Just be happy about it. Ask then Mods if taking a break now before jumpign to hanging, perhaps is beneficial. Have you ever tried hard manuals like squeezes or Ullis with your hands?
I see myself following your steps.


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Originally Posted by TonyThaTyga
You probably won’t from manuals. Yeah i’m sure lol you followed my log while I was hanging ha. All I spoke of was pain. More weight more fatigue.

so sorry you didnt get what you expected form hanging TTT, but you gained right? and it was your first PE experience if I recall well? You coulda gained more maybe, what about now, are you gaining with manuals?


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