Thanks for the info, i will think about it. But i have a hard time being as patient as you are though. I am 19 in college and will probably be getting the best peices of ass of my life in the next few years. I want to be huge for it, i guess thats why we are all here. I think about wieghtlifting and how if the program is not working, change it. I will give it more time if i can though. I think what i am doing now will work. Thanks for posts.