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Girth insecurity

Alright guys, I just gotta come out and say it - I’m real insecure about my girth.

I’m about 4.5 inches mid-shaft erect girth, and about 4.4 inches at the base. I’m about 6.5 inches in length. I guess I fall in the average range, and I’ve been told by most of the women I’ve been with that I’m good in bed.but being less than average girth really bothers me!

I have been doing some version of the newbie routine on and off for about 2 years now and have seen only minimal gains.
I know that:

A. It’s mostly all in my head.my penis is perfectly within average range and while I might find it interesting to grow it, it needn’t be any larger to satisfy a woman (unless her pussy is a gaping black hole).

B. With some persistance and practice I can probably get the MSEG girth up to 4.7/4.8” which would look and feel a lot better.

It just seems like a huge mountain to climb. And I;m super horny so I watch a lot of porn but every time I see some chick getting stuffed by a big wang, I feel even more inadequate.

Well there it is, I had to share. Any advice, PE related or psychological, would be appreciated.

Take care amigos.


March 4, 2011: BPEL: 6.5", MSEG: 4.25-4.5"

Goal: April 1, 2011: MSEG: 4.5" , May 1, 2011: MSEG: 4.7"

Hi hallucination.

My advice is to cut down on the porn, that stuff distorts reality.

I have the same problems with my girth. I had some injuries, and am finally coming back to PE. But for you, you said you were doing some form of the Newbie Routine on and off for 2 years, you may need to look at changing up your routine and focus on things that will help you build girth. Also consistency will help too, this on/off stuff really won’t help it anymore. Keep a log if you must, that seems to help me with my everyday routine.

One of my problems though that doesn’t help is my erection quality seems to be shitty, so I’m trying to improve that, which should help with the girth issues. I’ve had a few times where condoms fall of me during sex, because my erections haven’t stayed as hard as they should be. That is embarrassing, and I don’t want it to ever happen again. So Erection Quality, and filling out my girth better is what I”m focusing on to prevent that. Right now since I’m getting back into things though I’m only doing a Newbie routine & trying to build the erection quality. I will start focusing on girth after the Newbie program though.

Good luck!

Quit watching porn. And get to jelqing.

The psychology of porn will always make you feel inadequate.

And consistency is the key to gains, from what I hear.


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Current [(AUG'10) 7 x 5.25] [(OCT'10) 7.25 x 5.3] [(OCT'12) 7.5 x 5.5]

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Last edited by tootyfisty : 05-03-2011 at .

I started out at 4.3 MSEG. It was pretty disheartening when I first measured my girth. I couldn’t believe I was so below average in the girth department. Despite the fact that I’ve given a woman a vaginal orgasm, I was and to a certain degree still am pretty insecure about my girth. I was always comfortable with my length (6.7 in.), but my girth had always bothered me.

Today, I am currently concentrating on developing additional girth. I believe I gained about 0.2 inches in girth by doing all sorts of things with just my hands, namely jelqing and using one of my hands as some kind of improvised tourniquet/hand clamp in order to temporarily trap blood flow for a few minutes. I find that expansion is key to gain girth. If you manage to safely balloon your dick by trapping blood in there, you’ll make gains, but consistency and safety is key. For now, you should just concentrate on the newbie routine and using nothing but your hands to experiment with your dick in order to find out what works for you. I can’t emphasize enough how important safety is, and you should remember to never become overzealous in your efforts to gain girth.


START (05/2010): 6.7 in. BPEL, 4.3 in. MSEG // LAST (12/2014): 7.3 in. BPEL, 4.5 in. MSEG // SHORT-TERM GOAL: 7.5 in. BPEL, 5.0 in. MSEG

Hey man, I know what it feels like to be below in girth. For some odd reason length doesn’t bother me as much as girth. I hate the fact that I can completely wrap my hand around my shaft. It is something that I am working on. I’m doing pretty much the same thing that the Navigator is doing. I’m glad that it seems to be working out for him (I just started doing hand clamps).

I wouldn’t dismiss the length gains either though because the general consensus seems that length and girth work hand-in-hand, but if you gain too much girth then it becomes harder to gain length.


Re-Start 3.10.2011 - BPEL: 6.750" EG: 4.5" | Current 7.3.2011 - BPEL: 7.250" EG: 4.625" | Just made my first 1/2"!

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Like others have pointed: “quit whachting porn”.
Not only you will feel less inadequate but you will stop thinking of it.

When I whatched porn I always felt the urge of doing PE and get result immediatly.

Don’t whacht porn and just after a week you will feel a sensible decline in the need of perform PE (or at least in the need of getting result immediatly).
Quitting with porn will also restore the “normal” need of masturbation.

Originally Posted by HalluciNation

It just seems like a huge mountain to climb. And I;m super horny so I watch a lot of porn but every time I see some chick getting stuffed by a big wang, I feel even more inadequate.

Well there it is, I had to share. Any advice, PE related or psychological, would be appreciated.

So you answered it yourself, it is to a considerable degree a psychological issue. The contrast between your perception of your girth size and those in the pron movie are pointing in separate directions making it impossible to be integrated in mind, causing the feeling of inadequacy.

A simplified model of the issue:

Your perception ([your- girth- size]————————-psych. Distance—————————————————————————————————[pornstar’s-girth-size])

Psychological distance might not reflect the real distance. You should somehow try to lower this distance.

How to lower the distance?
Well, one can lower , to some degree, such psych. Distances with f. Example having real objective measurements, like your girth vs. The mean girth of the population, I think that the mean is in a range of 4.4-5-5 (inches)so your girth is within normal statistical range (+/- 1 standards deviation) (wiki). But maybe you would best feel if you were in the perfect middle, 5.0 inches?

But I sense that it would not satisfy you completely, based on the fact that you report of getting great feedback from girls that had sex with you, but not sufficient for you (I don’t mean it in a bad way). The girl’s feedback is also possibly use for decreasing the psych distance in the above model.

Altogether your ideal girth is set deep withing your psyche and the above distance is increasing your motivation for doing something with it. Since it is deeper layers of your motivation, it needs a more complex actions on different levels.

I can’t give you a perfect answer of the ‘treatment’ but but you can try this:

For the upper layers of motivation: you could make a list all the things you like about your penis and what it can do, and had done (f.ex. What it had done to those girls :) ), and then for the bad things, now when you have done that, examine all the bad points you made, one by one, and score it with an % of accuracy by asking your self how much truth is it for each statement, “do I have evidence to really believe it and so on?”

For the deeper layer of that motivation, you could use that energy for PE, I my self increased most in length and 0.3 inches in girth, so it is possible and maybe with the right routine you would gain a bit more in a time perspective of 7-12 months, it you nail the right routine.

Mine was based on stretching and jelqing ( stretching 60-90 sec in each directions twice, and jelqing for 30 min.), you should do the stretching but have a main focus on jelqing (40-45 min.).
Remember to be persistent with what ever routine you do (5 day on 2 off) and experiment with the power for the exercises as well ( f.example: starting easy and increase the power).

Good luck


STARTING: BPEL: 5.7 G: 4.65, NOW: BPEL: 7.48 G: 5.7 GOAL L:8.7 G:6.3 (old goal; L:8.0 G: 6.0)

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Disclaimer:The advices that I give of any sort are just stated on general laymen's knowledge.


Last edited by Ares88 : 05-04-2011 at .

Ares88 your post was amazing and helped me a lot with my girth insecurities as well.


Ahora:Longitud: 18 BP Grosor: :littleguy avanzado a los 14 EG.

Metas:Longitud: 20 BP Grosor: 15 EG.

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Originally Posted by WetMayo
I hate the fact that I can completely wrap my hand around my shaft.


Let’s keep our goals reasonable though.

We’ve all seen the girls in the porn videos who’s fingers don’t even come close to touching when they grasp their male counterparts member.

So I rolled up a piece of paper into a tube and wrapped my hand around it (which I think is pretty small compared to most mens hands, and probably pretty close to the average woman) to see what the girth this porn star would have to so that my fingers wouldn’t touch, with about an inch between them, like in all the video’s we see. I marked and unrolled the paper tube and measured.

My primitive experiment says that this porn star, and all the other ones we’ve seen just like him, would have to have a 7.5” girth for an “honest” grip to look like that.

How many guys do you think really have a girth of 7” or more?

Then, after she can barely get her hand around it, it always seems to fit in her mouth with no problem. Just try and fit a pop can in your mouth!


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Most girls wont be able to touch the fingertips between the index and the thumb if they dont squeeze the shaft. Now, if they squeeze the shaft then you would need 6.25-6.3 in order for them to not touch the fingertips.

Now, if you want them to not be able to touch the fingertips between the middle and thumb fingers you would need at least 6.5”.

Used toilet paper rolls here on Ecuador are around 6.10 on circumference and I have made many, MANY girls try to touch their fingers and 90% of them couldn’t´t.


Ahora:Longitud: 18 BP Grosor: :littleguy avanzado a los 14 EG.

Metas:Longitud: 20 BP Grosor: 15 EG.

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For me I’m not really worried so much about if the girls touch when they squeeze because you’re not suppose to being squeezing that hard anyways (at least for me). I’d be happy if there was even just a little gap between my middle finger and my thumb. I’m not talking about wanting some 3 inch gap or anything. I don’t even have that large of hands in comparison to the general male population anyways.

If I hold out my hand and slightly space my fingers from each other by about 1/2”, and then measure the length vertically from my tip of my middle finger down to the first line on the bottom of my palm (that runs across between the palm and wrist) I have 7 1/8”. My actual palm itself (without the fingers) the measurement, from the same place on the palm, to right where the middle finger begins I have 4 1/8”.

Hmm, I think I’ll figure out a way to get a 3/4” between the thumb and finger, which is about 6.5”. Ehh..


Re-Start 3.10.2011 - BPEL: 6.750" EG: 4.5" | Current 7.3.2011 - BPEL: 7.250" EG: 4.625" | Just made my first 1/2"!

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I really don’t know how you guys measure, just grab a cilindrical object with the standard ok grip between index and thumb if the fingertips barely close, then even 1 cm more than that would be more than enought to leave a gap.

I use a nivea deodorant which is 5.51 in circumference and my fingertips touch but barely. Any more than that and the fingertips wont be able to close.

Now, if we are talking about index to thumb then it is a different story because it is much more different in that case. If the girl don’t squeeze but just gently grab I think that the following is true in the majority of cases:

Won’t be able to touch the fingertips in an standard ok grip without squeezing and gently grabbing.

small hands: 5.5” MSEG.
medium hands: 6” MSEG.
Large hands: 6.5” MSEG.

Now, this is very ethnic dependant. I know that chart is true in my country, for example caucasian tall girls maybe have larger hands and the chart would be erroneus.


Ahora:Longitud: 18 BP Grosor: :littleguy avanzado a los 14 EG.

Metas:Longitud: 20 BP Grosor: 15 EG.

Fotos y progresos avantasia

Originally Posted by WetMayo
For me I’m not really worried so much about if the girls touch when they squeeze because you’re not suppose to being squeezing that hard anyways (at least for me).

When my girlfriend is giving me a blowjob, I always get her to grab the base of my dick and squeeze as hard as she can. It makes the glans blow up like a balloon, and the veins bulge on the sides… feels pretty good to me, and looks great compared to her small hand. When she squeezes really hard, her thumb and middle fingers touch. She knows I like it, and she makes a mean face and acts like shes going to attack my dick with her mouth when she squeezes it.


Start: November 2010 (BPEL: 7.5" -- EG (Midshaft): 5.6" -- EG (Base): 6.1")

Originally Posted by WetMayo
I hate the fact that I can completely wrap my hand around my shaft.

I think we really need to move past this “gap between fingers” goal stuff.

It is another Porno based goal. Porn directors aren’t filming documentaries, they are filming fantasy.

If you watch closely some of those starlets have a gap in the close-up blowjob sequence. Later they seem to have no gap problems. Both Para-goomba and I think that the directors tell them - “don’t grip his dick to tight, leave a gap between your fingers so he will look bigger.

I would have to be 7+ girth to have a gap.

Para-goomba is 6+ MSEG and has repeatedly posted that he has never been with a woman who was unable to close her fingers around his shaft.

Para-Goomba - Question for you girth workers

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Even if you have a diamond-hard Viagra erection, the CS is still spongy by definition. When a girl is handling my cock, she’s always squeezing it a fair bit (to jerk it off or whatever). I think with no squeezing at all, women with small hands wouldn’t be able to get them around a 6” girth. In any case, as sta-kool said, it seems like porn directors give clear instructions to the chicks to grip cocks very loosely to make them look even bigger.

“I think with no squeezing at all, women with small hands wouldn’t be able to get them around a 6” girth. “

There, Para goomba said it, if the girl doesn’s squeeze but gently touch, the fingertips won’t be able to touch.


Ahora:Longitud: 18 BP Grosor: :littleguy avanzado a los 14 EG.

Metas:Longitud: 20 BP Grosor: 15 EG.

Fotos y progresos avantasia

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