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Girth gains or length gains?

I’ve had fast girth gains and slow length ones but I didn’t give a special relevance to girth

425.00%

I’ve had fast length gains and slow girth ones but I didn’t give a special relevance to length

212.50%

option1 but I gave a special relevance to girth at the beginning of my PE experience

531.25%

option2 but I gave a special relevance to length at the beginning of my PE experience

531.25%
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girth....hard gains

small reflection :

We talk so much of the difficulties while trying to increase the circumference of the penis….Could be the cause the fact thatquite everyone first increase the length, or however to condition the penis make exercises that engrave on this, and by doing it create microlesions during the stretchings that make less elastic the penis for a following job of girth?

Will it be at all because the elasticity of the penis is “obviously” limited and great part of this is used for the length?

Ok that there are the cellular reproduction and other changes that allow the penis to grow in lenght…but also the microlesionis make their part…


Last edited by Leonida : 05-26-2010 at .

If you had big girth gains and little length ones, but not fast, you can choose the 1or3 answer. The opposite can be done for the 2or4 option. It matters only if there was a noticeable difference between the two increases.

A very valid theory.

Being over-average in length I have struggled to increase my girth after my first 3 months ( gain of .2”). However in contrast my length has not improved at all. So , although your point should be met with respect, it is my belief that, through the fact that girth creates new cells from micro-tears. It is possible to increase the girth of a penis until which point the penis cannot withstand any more trauma.


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

Originally Posted by AllAboutGirth
Being over-average in length I have struggled to increase my girth after my first 3 months ( gain of .2”). However in contrast my length has not improved at all. So , although your point should be met with respect, it is my belief that, through the fact that girth creates new cells from micro-tears. It is possible to increase the girth of a penis until which point the penis cannot withstand any more trauma.

But that point might be overtook by length routines…Even if for you this isn’t the case :)

Originally Posted by Leonida
But that point might be overtook by length routines.Even if for you this isn’t the case :)

I just feel that since the method of increasing length-wise and girth-wise puts pressure on different parts of the penis, it is implausable to me that the two should interject each other.


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

I wanted length gains so I concentrated on manual stretches. The result was a gain in girth at base of ~1/4” (at least to 6.25”) and all of it seems to be width not depth so I’m 2 1/8” wide at base. So basically from the front or from my angle looking down it looks very wide but from a side angle it looks a bit less round proportionally than others. I was 2” wide previously. No length gains or girth gains elsewhere, yet.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

What exercises were involved precisely? I have heard that some stretches can increase base girth and as such would be interested in knowing the routine Really wanna hit that 6” mark


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

Try if and when your jelqing to focus the pressure on the sides of the penis by way of an over hand grip, this has been theorised to give you a rounder penis


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

I used manual stretches about 7-10-thirty second stretches in different directions about twice/daily along with 50 kegels. I was not using any rest days and my EQ suffered a bit. Later after reading more, I added rest days as per newbie routine but I hardly ever used jelqing because I wasn’t comfortable that I had mastered the technique. I’m still uncomfortable about the correct pressure to apply but have been slowly incorporating more jelqing and trying to perfect the dry jelq technique. And yep I am focusing most pressure on sides. This is also less likely to aggravate the nerve on top.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
I used manual stretches about 7-10-thirty second stretches in different directions about twice/daily along with 50 kegels. I was not using any rest days and my EQ suffered a bit. Later after reading more, I added rest days as per newbie routine but I hardly ever used jelqing because I wasn’t comfortable that I had mastered the technique. I’m still uncomfortable about the correct pressure to apply but have been slowly incorporating more jelqing and trying to perfect the dry jelq technique. And yep I am focusing most pressure on sides. This is also less likely to aggravate the nerve on top.

Like I said in my post, knowledge is power and power is awesome ha ha! Well as far as my technique goes, I am currently trying to add about the pressure that you would with an egg (that is if you don’t want them scrambled!) along with an overhand ok grip while maintaining a stroke where the heel of my hand is linear to the centre of the head, with it angled downwards also (the hand). I’ve heard that slow jelqs are more beneficial to girth gains. I think it’s based directly on the theory of body building, in that you want to apply the right amount of pressure for a specific amount of time as to work the area of exertion. Would like your thoughts on this.


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

Originally Posted by AllAboutGirth
I’ve heard that slow jelqs are more beneficial to girth gains. I think it’s based directly on the theory of body building, in that you want to apply the right amount of pressure for a specific amount of time as to work the area of exertion. Would like your thoughts on this.

Basing one theory on another theory (read: unsure how it works) makes it very questionable. Look at bodybuilding. Other than progressive resistance, nobody is sure how it happens although there are tons of theories. Just look at all the different approaches (e.g. Periodization, high intensity, high volume, hardgainer, etc.). Has one approach ever been demonstrated to be more effective than the other? I’m not convinced. What is the optimal frequency/week and number of sets per body part to ensure maximal size and/or strength gains? Again, it’s not clear. With respect to the mechanisms involved it’s even less clear.

My sense after reading some of the PE articles is the same with PE. I’m leaning towards a somewhat lower intensity (less pressure and/or less stretch/tension) and perhaps a somewhat more frequent approach. This is due to safety. It is also less likely to lead to overtraining. If I’m constantly getting rock-hard erections, which I have been lately, I’m guessing I’m on the right path. I’m also sure that this will take many months or years of committed effort to get very noticeable gains. Kinda like bodybuilding. The first few months everybody puts on some muscle. Afterwards it becomes a lot more difficult to put on much more muscle.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Well maybe you have a point there :) I do think however that the reason there are so many routine types in bodybuilding is that everybody is different. I shall try a low intensity dry jelq next time as it has worked for me in the past but as a result of finding out that high intensity jelqs were beneficial I jumped ship, in heinsight a bit prematurely. How do you suggest I should go about them in terms of reps, EQ and stroke duratoin? Thanks


Starting Stats : 26 MAY 2010 EL = 8.00'' , EG = 5.6/5.7 :August 13 2011 EL = 8.1 EG = 6 - 6.1

AAG - Going from WOW! to OW!

I’m not experienced enough to give advice. Maybe someone else could help. But it seems the general advice from the more experienced members is to start with wet jelqs, use only a few relatively slow reps (20 or so), perfect the technique, increase the reps every 2-3 workouts and then go unto dry jelqs only after you perfected the wet jelq technique. Perhaps you have, so this doesn’t apply to you. I still haven’t, although I’m trying to learn both. Stretching, however, seems a lot easier to master.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Until now the poll results evidence the fact that length gains and girth gains seems to be inversely proportional….
Even if the tunica is double-bedded, one level stretches in longitudinal sense and the other transversely, they may really interject each other.
I can’t imagine a balloon which stretches and can enlarge itself as if it wasn’t stretched at all !!!!!

PLEASE don’t kill me because I’ve compared the penis with a balloon. The cell regeneration has not been proved yet and the theory which seems to be mostly supported is the “Elasticity to Plasticity” one which can fit quite well for a balloon.

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