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From 5 to 7

From 5 to 7

Welcome, I am new to PE with a BPEL of 5.8” and EG is 5” that means I’m average. I have begun the newbie routine about 2 months ago but I have 3 questions mainly about safety

1.Do I have to hold a kegel as I jelq? Does it help to hold a kegel during jelqs?

2.Can I kegel blood into my penis( then release) while I jelq? And if so, do I kegel when the very second before I grip the base?

I am really focusing on length for now and would like to be at BPEL 7.1” and EG 5.5”(reasoning for title). So I am jelqing at about 50 to 70 erection level

3.Since I am focusing on length should I jelq at a lower level? I ask this because a 30 to 40 erection level feels like I complete waste of a jelq ( I’m no expert ) is it a waste or should I feel little or no blood being forced around?

My routine:
10 minute warm up
5 minute (total) stretch all directions twice
10 minute jelq (6 seconds each jelq)
10 minute warm up
Kegels

I plan on keeping this routine cause its not to complicated but I know eventually I will have to incorporate other work outs, my question is what is next after JP90 is there another set of organized workouts to follow?

My last question is really up to my own discretion but do I really have start pumping and hanging and clamping or can I do it manually? I mean just jelqing stretching edging and kegels?

Can I thank everyone in advance
Thank You

Hey, Pnewbie, welcome to Thunder’s.

1 and 2 - if you kegel while jelqing, regardless of whether you release the kegel now and then or not, you’ll simply achieve a higher erection level. Some people refer to that as “Power Jelq”, but regardless of it’s name, the idea is mostly that - higher erection level. If you think about it, all you’re doing is getting more blood in your penis and holding it there. So, for example, if you’re at 60% and do a kegel, you’ll get at 70-80% erection.
As you’re focused in gaining length rather than girth - there’s almost no point in doing “Power Jelqs” or whatever. Simply jelq at 60-70 and you’ll be fine.

3 - 50% is the most commonly accepted minimum for jelqing. Anything lower than that would most probably be a “waste of jeql”. :)
You should feel some pressure while jelqing, even at the lowest erection level possible. If you don’t, you’re probably below the minimum.

Some comments on your routine - you probably don’t need the 10 minute warm down (or the second warm up, ifi you prefer), a lot of people, myself included, consider it to be a waste of time. A warm down could be beneficial for people with very heavy routines, but I don’t think it’s useful with the newbie-ish routines.
Also, 6 seconds seem a bit long for a single jelq to me. You don’t have an 8-inch dick, so I would probably cut it down to 3-4 seconds and do more jelqs instead. But I could be wrong. It might not matter. Or it might actually be better the way you do it. PE veterans will probably have a good suggestion and explanation. :)

As for hanging, pumping, etc. - you needn’t do anything more than stretch, jeql and kegel to gain. You need a bit more than an inch and that’s achievable with the simplest of PE exercises. A lot of people can confirm that. But, as you probably know by know, it really depends on the individual and the individual’s penis.


RE-Started (01.10.2012): 4.75'' NBPEL, 4.33'' EG (overall), 3'' NBPFL --- Now: 5.1'' NBPEL, 4.75'' EG (overall), 3.5'' NBPFL

Short-term goal: 5.5'' NBPEL, 4.5'' EG (overall), 3.5'' NBPFL --- Long term goal: 7.5'' NBPEL, 5.5'' EG (overall), 5'' NBPFL

Wish me luck! :)

You really need to “listen” to your penis.

Find an erection level such that your jelqs create some modest amount of internal pressure in your penis. As a newbie, you really need to focus on conditioning before moving into things that may really stress may your penis. Your erection level and reps should be adjusted such that your workouts result in better EQ, not worse. Many guys, including me, experience growth during this phase.

When you’re fully conditioned, you should still stick to stretching and jelqing if it is working for you. You can increase reps as needed. In my case, I followed JP90 for a few months, then more intermediate/advanced manual exercises followed by the addition of some pumping have contributed to somewhat steady gains over my 17-18 months.


11/20/2011: BPEL: 6", MEG: 4.75" (goal BPEL: ~7", MEG: 5.25")

5/9/12: BPEL: 6.5", MEG 5" (goal BPEL: 7.25", MEG: 5.5")

3/5/13: BPEL: 6.875", MEG 5 5" (max goal BPEL: 7.5", MEG: 5.75")

No warm up

Originally Posted by viksenpai

Some comments on your routine - you probably don’t need the 10 minute warm down (or the second warm up, if you prefer), a lot of people, myself included, consider it to be a waste of time. A warm down could be beneficial for people with very heavy routines, but I don’t think it’s useful with the newbie-ish routines.
Also, 6 seconds seem a bit long for a single jelq to me. You don’t have an 8-inch dick, so I would probably cut it down to 3-4 seconds and do more jelqs instead. But I could be wrong. It might not matter. Or it might actually be better the way you do it. PE veterans will probably have a good suggestion and explanation. :)

Really? No warm up, I always warm up because I always thought that a warm up before and after a work out would result in a faster recovery and my penis would be less subject-able to injury.

Warm ups before and after kill a lot of my time, and also stops me completely from doing “piss pulls”( light stretches every time you urinate) because I always thought you must warm up before stretches.

So my question is can I start doing “piss pulls”, and are they safe? Should I just forget about the “piss pulls” and continue to take it slow? (All experts feel free to comment)

Also my penis points to the slightly to the right when I am erect or flaccid, is it because the “ligs” are tight on the right? And I should stretch left for 30secs more after a full stretch session( full session meaning up down left right)? Should I also jelq towards the left, until my penis straightens out?

Thanks in advance

I hope you didn’t misunderstand me. Warm up before is good. Warm down (or post-PE warm up) is the pointless one.

So you should still warm up. “Piss pulls” are light enough that you can do them without warming up. While they probably won’t do much, they certainly can’t harm.

As for your penis pointing to the right - I don’t know what the reason is, but you could probably figure that out. When erect pull your dick to the left. If you feel a pulling sensation just above your penis - it’s your ligs, if you feel more pressure in your dick and perineum - it’s probably just the way your corpora cavernosa have formed. Either way, I see no harm in doing a bit more stretching to the left. Even if it doesn’t do the trick, you’ll have stretched a bit more.
On a semi-side note, while there is a lot of talk about ligs, some of the respected vets think that no gains come from the ligs (as they’re hardly stretched during our manual stretching exercises). I don’t think anybody knows for sure, but it’s good to have that in mind.


RE-Started (01.10.2012): 4.75'' NBPEL, 4.33'' EG (overall), 3'' NBPFL --- Now: 5.1'' NBPEL, 4.75'' EG (overall), 3.5'' NBPFL

Short-term goal: 5.5'' NBPEL, 4.5'' EG (overall), 3.5'' NBPFL --- Long term goal: 7.5'' NBPEL, 5.5'' EG (overall), 5'' NBPFL

Wish me luck! :)

Hey… I’m not sure I like your name.

Sorry

Originally Posted by penewbie
Hey.. I’m not sure I like your name.

Sorry about that PEnewbie, my name happens to be Peter, you clearly have all rights to the name though.

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