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Forums Vs Reality

Originally Posted by Acid Jazz
I would say that most women will tell you that if you have 5” bone pressed, but you have girth, it is much more pleasurable than someone who has 6 or 7”, but small girth.

But, underlying all of this, is that all girls should learn/know how to kegel. It is a lot easier for a woman to exercise her PC and squeeze a cock, than for us to grow and stretch a pussy.

110% agree. As a matter of fact I told my girlfriend about kegeling a couple days ago. I told her I read it from a book and that both men and women can do it to better there sex life and it helps tighten her puss. She didn’t seem to intrigued about it so I ended the conversation hoping to not blow my cover about TP. But I’ll bring it up again. Maybe she’ll start to Kegel as I start to grow in girth! That would drive her crazy, the tightness. Wow, why haven’t I thought of this before?


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Damn I miss my ex girlfriend, she could kegel like no other! It was crazy, if she was tired and wanted me to cum all she had to do was start squeezing hard.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

Damn I miss my ex girlfriend, she could kegel like no other! It was crazy, if she was tired and wanted me to cum all she had to do was start squeezing hard.

Is it really that big of a difference? did she get off on it too or what?


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Originally Posted by Philadelph
Damn I miss my ex girlfriend, she could kegel like no other! It was crazy, if she was tired and wanted me to cum all she had to do was start squeezing hard.

I think it hurts when they squeeze I don’t like it.
I once was with a girl that had trouble reaching orgasm so I taught her to kegel saying maybe it would help, after she learned to do it she finally was able to get off, she eventually quit doing kegels though and she is back to having trouble reaching orgasm.


PE Goal: 7.5" NBP x 5.8" MSG

So it would help her. I don’t think I would have every knew about Any of this stuff if it wasn’t for this forum. You know how many people are missing out?

How many people outside this forum you think even knows about kegeling? 5-10% if that?


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

Originally Posted by Philadelph
Damn I miss my ex girlfriend, she could kegel like no other! It was crazy, if she was tired and wanted me to cum all she had to do was start squeezing hard.

If you’re having a little issue with keeping hard, a good squeeze will get you back up and running quickly. And, yes, if they want you to cum, they can just squeeze, and make the friction so much that you either have to stop or cum.

Also, the better trained the pc muscle is for a woman, the stronger the orgasms will be. It is truly lovely. :D


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

I will rarely speak authoritatively on this subject, but as a cognitive scientist, I feel this is worth stating. Perception is everything! I am not kidding. For the purposes of this post, I will only offer anecdotal evidence (The National Science Foundation probably wouldn’t give me money to study penile perception right now).

Humans frame their perceptions around a point of reference because thinking without comparison is unthinkable. We use reference points to make evaluate our understanding of “better” or “worse.” Generally, what information do most young men employ to form their understanding of sexuality? I will bet the farm that, in the modern age, the answer is pornography. While this medium of entertainment is very stimulating and entertaining, it significantly distorts reality to the mind because it creates false reference-points for men and women. That is, most women CANNOT deepthroat (or even fit) 8”+. As it relates to this forum, most men are not greater than 8”. Bottom line. I could waste space offering about a “gajillion” other distortions of reality in porn, but, for the sake of relevance, I will not. Porn distorts perceptions, and this, in turn, negatively skews expectations for both sexes.

I have read the handful of academic studies available on JSTOR, and perception is a key explanatory component. Wouldn’t it just be nice to say something like, “Bigger is better because more volume stimulates more nerves, and therefore leads to more orgasmic activity.” Yes, that would be quite easy. But that just isn’t true.

Here is some scientifically insignificant and strictly anecdotal evidence of my previous points. My wife and I have belonged to a local social/swing community for the last several years. We figured the variety would enhance and peak both of our sexual agendas. I have always been confident about my size and her desire for an occasion “fat-dick.” I won’t go into my agenda here because of irrelevance. The more couples/groups we interacted with, the more she realized that her “fat-dick” was rarer than she thought. As a matter of fact, I normally ended up being the largest guy at the party! YES! That IS absolutely gratifying (because I thought you’d ask)!

On the average, the average has been about 6”x4-5”. That is actually congruent to the published scholarship. As an aside, I will mention I have personally witnessed many, many women (including my wife) orgasm on 4-5” penises. What I have come to find is that sexually active women have a great appreciation for variety; we all fit in somewhere.

The point here is that we (PE-ers) think about size much more than most and this shapes our opinion much differently than the many who do not make the almost nightly commitment to growth. So, while we all strive for self-improvement, don’t lose sight of one thing: We vary, that is what makes us normal.


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Words of a scientist. Don’t watch pornography. Thanks for the great post Imorleytx. This is your 5 post, so I appreciate you posting here. When you swing, do you get to see how big the other men are? Right now your BP 7”x5.25” How many men were bigger than you? (Eg. 2/10?) And what was there average age group?


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

If you want a true penis average just watch Nuaghtiest home videos on playboy channel. If you watch 10 or 12 episodes you get the idea that the really big guys are few and far between, and considering that this is going on national television I think that more hung guys are going to tend to want to put there tapes on T.V. rather than the smaller guys.

Is the viewpoint of this forum a little skewed, personally I have no doubt. 7 by 5.5 is big, whichever study you want to look at. A lot of the posters here seem to think that unless you pull it out and the girl shits herself wondering what to do with the bludgeon that she’s looking at that they’ve got nothing. Imorleytx I think that your post about perception being based on comparison is bang on. 8” by 6” may not be large when you see it on a guy thats 6’6” but its still going into a girl thats probably a little over 5 feet.

Everyone here is doing it for there own reasons ( Me included ) and I won’t begrudge anybody for them. However I think that people should keep there expectations realistic. Women run more on emotion than visualization and if they love the guy odds are they will accept whatever he’s got. Skill goes further with women than size in the long run.

Thats my 2 cents.

To begin, I never said, “Do not watch porn.” I like porn and so does my wife. It does bring an additional element to our sex lives. I also watch “the X-Files” for entertainment. I do not allow either of these forms of entertainment to inform my impression of the world. The key to my point about perception is understanding how we subconsciously base our comparisons around a reference point. Simply put, you must be able to adequately separate entertainment from the normal distribution as these shape your expectations and ultimately your satisfaction.

I really do pity porno actors; they’re personal lives must be tough. Imagine being in the top 97% of distribution (hung like a horse), meeting the love of your life, and she cannot accept you comfortably. Booooo on that! I know someone like this, except he isn’t a pornstar, and has been outright rejected because he is too big. He doesn’t feel lucky to have what so many on this forum strive for. No PE, no surgery, just genetics.

Swinging is not for everyone; we have been married 10 years, 4 kids, you get the idea. Invariably, some people do it for the wrong reasons, and yes, it can seriously damage and otherwise healthy relationship - I have seen it happen.

By nature, the “lifestyle” is very open and we never met anyone who was bashful about being clothed. The mean size length is around 6” while the girth varied greatly. For some reason, discussion of girth is much less prevalent than length. What I observe from couples who enjoy 2+ people occurs in patterns. This part of my commentary is not scientific, just my personal observations. The sample of people I discuss here are approximately 30-40 years of age and demographically diverse. Pretty much the only thing these people have in common is that they are sexual deviants (such as I’m).

If the remainder of this section is too graphic for honest discourse, please let me know, no offense is intended and I will not be offended if it is removed. I did my best to be clean while getting the point across.

What I observe from couples who enjoy 2+ people occurs in patterns. This part of my commentary is not scientific, just my personal observations. In a MFM scenario, the women I have known typically enjoy one larger (6-8”) and one slightly less (4-6”). This accommodates more sexual preferences of the female; not only are more activities physically possible, but different types of men provide variety. Make sense? This is a big deal to women I have known (including the Mrs.). However, in a FMF scenario, I have noticed the tendency to desire more man. Based on conversations, I attribute this tendency to wanting to achieve a feeling of “if we are gonna be act like pornstars, let’s go all the way.” This dynamic occurs in equally distributed foursomes as well, to a lesser extent. At multiple couple parties, I have not taken the time to make observations as I am extremely busy. And yes, occasionally there is a fellow with a huge tool, and yes, he receives significant attention. So what? I have never known anyone to feel left out. We’re just closet pervs who get out one weekend a month.

By no means is this commentary definitive, just my experiences. I see patterns when I do not want to. But this should illustrate how everyone fits in, at least as it relates to “Forum vs. Reality.” I’d love to know what female forum members think about this post as well.


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You kinda didn’t answer my question. But I get what your saying. I Personally don’t like pornography. One because it seems that every man is bigger than me 8/10 times. And you can tell when the women fake there pleasure. So all it does is make me feel like you need a big dick to make a women scream like they do in the films. And it’s a habit I don’t want to get back into, when I was younger I was very intrigued by it and got addicting. But now I stay away from it.

I’m no where near wanting to become a swinger, and never will be. I don’t necessarily go around imagining me in every hot ladies pants either. Especially since I have a girlfriend, who I see my self being with for a long ass time. I want my goal to boost my own ego, and to please my partner, nobody else. Especially sense she’s had bigger, I don’t think length wise, but girth wise.

Perception wise my penis does look too small for my body. I’m almost 6’2 about 150 lbs. If it was an inch or so longer and fatter it would fit me better. I want it to touch my belly button. :)

If you look at me from a far, I probably don’t look very big. But if she’s on here knees undoing by belt and if falls out, she’ll probably think it’s a lot bigger.


Current stat = NBPEL - 6.235", BPEL - 7.000".. Mid EG - 5.063".. Base EG - 5.750" BPSFL - 7.3125 ------ Old stats = NBPEL - 6.000", Mid EG - 5.000

Goal stat = NBPEL - 7.750", BPEL - 8.250".. Mid EG - 6.000".. Base EG - 6.500" ------ Goal Length gains - 1.515". Girth gain - 1.000"

:dance: Need a workout log? I've got one Here. :-pulse:

I have not posted anything on this topic for a few days so I thought I might, its interesting seeing people who discuss penis size in a way that maybe defies our compulsions. For me, I have BDD and OCD pretty bad. That’s why I am here. if I even measure a mm off what I did the day before I can think about it for hours. Someday I really hope and think I will find some peace of mind with this issue and the many others, but the reason I am saying this is that anyone who has serious BDD knows how distorted reality can become. For instance this is a realistic pattern of someone with BDD. The girls opinions vs. the guys. I’d like to hear some opinions on it.

Guy: I can do any possible position without her ever hurting that surely means I am not big enough.
Girl: Thank god, he is more averaged size, the last guy killed me and it was hard to have good sex.

GUY AFTER 1 year of PE, we’ll say 1 inch longer, 0.3 inches thicker

GUY-I still cannot hit the cdc and she can fit me in her mouth without any teeth marks.
Girl-My cervix is getting hit, and my jaw is hurting more.

GUY AFTER 2 years of PE 1.5 inch length, 0.75 girth

Guy-i am finally starting to hit my goal at 8 inches BP, but some guys on here are looking for 9, so maybe I should go there so I am big enough.

Girl-He can no longer go the whole way in, I can hardly fit him in my mouth, and it takess 20 min of foreplay to even attemp to put him in.

Of course this is a stretch some girls love the size over time, but this is a very realistic possibilty, and something that I could completely see the average girl thinking, but with BDD we never think we are good enough expecially if we had a traumatic experience.

I.E) a mean girlfriend said you were small, whatever it might be.

One more thing about the forum vs. reality. When I started PE I was overweight and although I had an above average 6.7 inches BP, I was lucky to get 5.9-6 inches NBP. I also had a 4.8 inch girth at the thickest part at the time. However, I remember a few guys in my house got on this whole “magnum train” I don’t know if they were really all using using magnums (my guess is they were), so I of course had to try them.

I found out that they were looser than a normal condom but that they never even came close to slipping off during sex and in some ways they made sex more comfortable. Now I have heard guys claiming that they 5+ girth saying they wish they could wear a magnum. I personally think that this goes to show how much guys are willing to exaggerate. Yes I really wore magnums fairly comfortably at my listed size, but i certainly didn’t need them. However, the guys in my house who used magnums thought they were big all of the sudden.

These guys claiming 5+ girth and not fitting into a magnum are plain out lying. I messed around with a regular condom at my approximate 5 girth recently, and the thing was so damn tight going over my head that it took 20 seconds to get it on.

Also I have come to realize that alot of people talk about an average length of 5.5 NBP, I think if we took a general consensus that would be average on thunders. If you look at the thunders study starting length is 6.34 leaving an average fat pat of 0.84. a 5.5X5 inch penis would be quite stumpy. In fact i have read about guys saying that at 5.75 NBP by 5.25 girls commented on their penis looking short and fat.

Also people I know claiming 5 inches in girth all look somewhat above average.

WHY DOES ALL THIS MATTER?

because penises are usually proportional, that means at 5.5 NBP, 4.75 girth is proportional. Many people will argue that the average length of the penis is less than 5.5 NBP, perhaps more like 5.2-5.3 which would equal a 6 inch BP penis on people who have an average fat pad. that would mean proportional girth is more like 4.55-4.6.

I went through all this because it is a clear example of how people round up so much. I feel many people with a legit 4.6-4.7 girth, will convince themselves they 4.9, and then round to 5, and the difference between 4.6 to 5 in girth is very big from what I have read.

So is 5 inches of girth below average?average or big in reality?

2Big4U:

I apologize for not directly answering. Over 2 years, two men were larger than me, making it approximately 1 in 15 >7”. On the average, people are in their 30s.

I included a lot of additional information because there is a hazard with discussing some subjects, and I feel it is irresponsible to not mention risks associated with my referenced behaviors.

Cheers.


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