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Ephedrine Jelqing

Ephedrine Jelqing

Just started PE, and the forums have been a great help.

Just a question for those in the know:

I’m taking an ephedrine / caffeine mix for fat burning purposes.
I know this can restrict blood flow in the penis, although not to any great extent - I can still get an erection.

Do you think this could cause a limitation in PE gains?

I’m guessing it probably could, but hoping to see if anyone has knowledge / ideas about this?

Also, I may use Yohimbe as an alternative. Could this also restrict gains?

Thanks a lot for your help in advance

:rolling: Yohimbe is no alternative to ephedrine regarding burning properties. In a complete ECA stack (Ephedrine, Coffeine and Aspirine - you’re only on a partly EC Stack) you might swap Aspirine with Yohimbe. This is quite popular. But you won’t get a fat buring effect by substituting Ephedrine with Yohimbe - at least not to my knowledge ;) Anyway, you will end up jelqing fully erect on Yohimbe. If you want this, you could try.


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KPR 0.072 @ Dec. 4, 2003

DO NOT take Yohimbe with EC unless you realize how these work. L Born, your advice is not only bad, but potentially dangerous. Yes, some people can handle an ECY stack, but advising someone with unknown tolerance for EC to throw in some Y is irresponsible.

I have a moderately low tolerance of EC, even after several weeks of working up the dose. If I were to add Y I’d most likely have serious problems.

EC is fine without aspirin. The aspirin has very little effect, if any. It may help a tiny bit in the extremely obese, but really isn’t worth the bother.

I don’t think EC will affect PE gains unless it prevents you from doing decent sessions. It doesn’t affect my erections, and my flaccid is about the same on it as without. I guess my dick is immune. :) Your mileage may vary.

PE gains are not dependent on blood flow. PE exercises are mechanical. They work by the body’s response to mechanical stress. Besides, how do you know that ephedrine/caffeine “can restrict blood flow in the penis”?

Hobby, your point is good - and taken! Although I didn’t give any advice at all! I made a statement regarding a habbit to be found among bodybuilders quite often.

I am a bit pissed because usually I am the one warning everyone not to mess with yohimbe. This time I left those disclaimers out - and *BAM* :cry:


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KPR 0.072 @ Dec. 4, 2003

Thanks for the input

Cheers for the input.

Yeah, the Yohimbine replacement was really for appetite suppression, rather than fat burning which imho is diet + cardio 95% anyway.

Thanks a lot.

Originally Posted by hobby
DO NOT take Yohimbe with EC unless you realize how these work. L Born, your advice is not only bad, but potentially dangerous. Yes, some people can handle an ECY stack, but advising someone with unknown tolerance for EC to throw in some Y is irresponsible.

I have a moderately low tolerance of EC, even after several weeks of working up the dose. If I were to add Y I’d most likely have serious problems.

EC is fine without aspirin. The aspirin has very little effect, if any. It may help a tiny bit in the extremely obese, but really isn’t worth the bother.

I don’t think EC will affect PE gains unless it prevents you from doing decent sessions. It doesn’t affect my erections, and my flaccid is about the same on it as without. I guess my dick is immune. :) Your mileage may vary.

Very sound advice here!

I have much experience experimenting with EC and Y. I agree with Hobby, you don’t need the aspirin. When I take E, my cock gets flaccid and cold. I would never take E on my PE days. Definitely do not take E with Y. I think Dan Duccaine was the first person to advocate this. I rather have a few extra % bodyfat than be dead.

Since E is now gone, where are you guys getting this stuff? I have about 500 tabs that I ordered from the net before it was banned… I hate the FDA!


JAPP

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There they are out of stock I just noticed. But they should be back… Vasopro is said to be except from the ban ?!


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KPR 0.072 @ Dec. 4, 2003

This one should almost be a post on it’s own.BUT.. I have raynauld’s disease which cuts off circulation to hands and feet. I kid you not IT IS STARTING IN MY PENIS. But I have a cream for hands call nifedipine( I think thats right ) and it opens veins. I have not done this yet, but maybe apply a small amount to penis after good jelk/stretch work out!? Just throwing this out at ya.


Last edited by LordRhal : 01-31-2005 at . Reason: wrong spelling and word( auto fix is dumb )

Nifedipine is a calcium channel blocker. Since you’re using it topically anyway, you could try a little on your penis to see what happens. If I were you I’d start with only a tiny bit. The penis skin is so vascular the drug will probably be whisked away into your bloodstream soon after application. I doubt it will have any impact on PE gains.

BTW, with that condition you shouldn’t take EC. I don’t have Raynaud’s Syndrome, but EC (actually, ECN because I always have a lot of nicotine in my system) makes my hands and feet cold. Odd how it doesn’t bother my dick.

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