Enjoying a glass of whiskey while hanging

As title says, currently hanging 10lbs BTC and enjoying a glass of whiskey and felt like sharing. I found it very relaxing. Cheers to all.

LOL…Well, whatever helps…Just don’t overdo it as your pain thresholds may not hold true and you might feel it in the morning…:D

Just dont get drunk and pass out, or….well, you dont want to think about the consequences…..

Whiskey is estrogenic, cheers to a shrinking dick and a growing belly!

Good grief, here we go with the estrophobia again. Tell me what is estrogenic about whiskey, kingpole.

Alcohol, duh! But it is not as estrogenic as beer, beer is made with hops hops are a sex depressor.
Red wine is the least of the estrogenics. Cheers!

Show me one article that claims ethanol is estrogenic. I can’t imagine how ethanol would affect an estrogen receptor, as it completely lacks an aromatic ring.

Red wine would seem the most estrogenic of all, since it contains a high amount of polyphenols and other aromatics.

Hops are a sex depressor? Seems to have the opposite effect on me! :gulp:

Right on, ToDaMoon. Enjoy!

Red wine in modertion is the only alcoholic beverage that is not estrogenic, dark red grapes and red grapes have a chemical that blocks aramotase

From converting testosterone over to estrogen in the liver The book I read I do beleive it’s called “Testosterone” I’m going to check it out of the library again so I can get some direct quotes from it.

Yes, but who is the book written by? A quote can be taking from anywhere, but you have to consider the source. You can get a quote out of Ironman magazine written by some journalist without any credentials. You could also take quotes from supplement ads. I remember when chrysin was a huge hit supplement because it blocked aromatase in vitro, but as it turns out, it has little or no effect on aromatase in vivo. These are things to consider.

Also, you state that ethanol is estrogenic, but did you know that wine has 2-3 times the ethanol concentration as beer? It seems you contradict yourself with that arguement.

I forgot his name and he is a well known medical doctor so this is coming from a allopathic view. There is a thread on TP about natural ways to boost testosterone. Beer is not one of them. It is probably safer and healthier to drink wine in modertion. The limit on beer is two per day but for men with ED no more than 4 per week because of it’s estrogenic effect, beer also increases DHT.

A glass of wine or a shot of whisky is ok now and then even a little every day it even offers some heart protection and if you are diabetic it also lower blood glucose levels, when my blood sugar use to get up around 400 and the insulin was not working I would grab me a beer or ale.
However again red wine is better for lowering blood sugar than beer or whisky.

Wine has a chemical from the grapes that helps to block aramotase from converting testosterone over to estrogen.

I’m sorry I did not check out the book I will have to wait tell Saturday to check it out life distractions kept me away from the library.

Bu here’s a quote form a well known nutritionist. Janet Macccaro PH.D.G.N.C
From the ndropause segment page 102 from her book “Natural Health Remedies”
“Limit or elimniate alcohol becuse it increases DHT”. A direct quote

Supplements for Andropause:
Ginko biloba (IT even restores erection power to those who take SSRI”S) A paraphrase

I would be weary of a source that says alcohol lowers testosterone but raises DHT. It’s difficult to justify how lowering a substrate can increase a product, unless alcohol somehow increases testosterone’s affinity for the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That seems unlikely.

I’ll leave the Estrogen/testosterone discussion to kingpole and goldy.

However, I feel obliged to inform the interested forum members that I had a very rewarding session.