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Seriously guys,

I spent 50 bucks on this extender, used it constantly for 6 months and didnt see a thing. Been jelqing casually for several weeks and definitely feel something going on, and in a good way.

Unfortunately, I’ve been a little lazy and havent gotten around to it in awhile but I will definitely be starting up again.

But in the meantime, I mean why waste money on pills, devices, etc when we can just use these exercises that apparently have been around for a long time?

I’m confident if I knew about PEgym when I was 16 I would be in much better shape down there than I am now.

What do you all think? Is it worth spending the extra $$ for supplements and more devices when we’re on a forum devoted to natural exercises?

I don’t know much about PEGym but if I would’ve known about Thunders or even jelqing around in 1986, women would be confusing my unit with my forearm…and probably wouldn’t go near me.

What kind of gains have you had in six months? What are your goals? Length and/or girth? This stuff actually does work but it does take dedication. It’s a very slow process. Maybe get stuck back into it and give yourself a solid year and see how you go. Maybe hit the Newbie Routine again for three months and see how you to. Make sure you properly measure and take pictures to track your progress. Trust me, it makes a huge difference.

As far as devices go; do a search. I think a lot of guys have gotten good results out of them but can’t really comment because the only devices I’ve used are clamps and I know it has helped increase my midshaft girth. I have read a lot about hanging devices where there are solid results. Of course this takes some serious time and effort as well. I don’t know how much free time you have but it is possible to put this into your routine if your unit is conditioned enough.

Pills? I agree with you there. You’ve heard the saying ‘If it’s sounds too good to be true….” Like I’ve said this stuff takes dedication and it’s a slow process. We’ve all read enough threads here to convince us that they are a waste of time and money and that you may end up discouraged with the whole process. I could be wrong. However, not to be outdone by the competition, one company is guaranteeing an additional 5 inches! So basically without knowing my history, my genetics or that I’ve been PE’ing for 4 years, if I take their pills I will have a 13.5” dick hanging down my leg?! I can only imagine that with every order of pills you purchase, they send you a 5” prosthetic sleeve to attach to your dick.

I have to say good luck and I look forward to hearing about your positive results. The thing I found with this whole site is that not only has it helped me gain some inches and improved my penile health, it has helped me gain some serious confidence about my dick size which in turn has helped with my overall confidence.


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Last edited by coolbill : 11-01-2011 at .

Originally Posted by coolbill

What kind of gains have you had in six months? What are your goals? Length and/or girth? This stuff actually does work but it does take dedication. It’s a very slow process. Maybe get stuck back into it and give yourself a solid year and see how you go. Maybe hit the Newbie Routine again for three months and see how you to. Make sure you properly measure and take pictures to track your progress. Trust me, it makes a huge difference.


No, I found out about penis exercises about a month and a half ago. I said I used an extender device for 6 months and saw no results, in length or girth. But since I’ve done just a little bit of Pegym/thunders, I definitely feel progress going on. I’m currently 5” erect and 3.5” soft. My goal is to reach at least 7” erect and 5 inches soft.

According to member Pahctna38, he was able to go from 5 to 7” erect in 9 months from dry jelqing.
pahctna38 - dry jelq gains

Originally Posted by rocketeer57

According to member Pahctna38, he was able to go from 5 to 7” erect in 9 months from dry jelqing.
pahctna38 - dry jelq gains


Two inches in nine months? I’m not saying it didn’t happen, but it’s hard to believe. If it is true it’s very, very rare, and I wouldn’t count on such amazing results. Really sounds more like an advertisement than a real testimonial.

Cosign that, my man.


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Hi if by devices you mean extenders, pumps, vac and all this sort of stuff I would say buy if you can, I mean if you have money to bet because I have read a lot of posts and threads that people say devices doesn’t work and all I can think is that a device is a bet might work or not it depends on you, I have been doing PE and extender and got improved results so I think it’s working great for me, but about pills I think is all a scam, pill won’t work almost sure only if it is steroids, testosterone stuff than it may help a little but if several collateral effects


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Originally Posted by rocketeer57
Seriously guys,

I spent 50 bucks on this extender, used it constantly for 6 months and didnt see a thing. Been jelqing casually for several weeks and definitely feel something going on, and in a good way.

Unfortunately, I’ve been a little lazy and havent gotten around to it in awhile but I will definitely be starting up again.

But in the meantime, I mean why waste money on pills, devices, etc when we can just use these exercises that apparently have been around for a long time?

I’m confident if I knew about PEgym when I was 16 I would be in much better shape down there than I am now.

What do you all think? Is it worth spending the extra $$ for supplements and more devices when we’re on a forum devoted to natural exercises?

Strange that you post here about PEGym. Why not post this over on their forum? Or did you just forget where you were at? If so, just remember, we are the forum without the ads on every page. ;)


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS

Strange that you post here about PEGym. Why not post this over on their forum? Or did you just forget where you were at? If so, just remember, we are the forum without the ads on every page. ;)

I thought PEgym was just a general term for these exercises - now I now it’s for a specific forum

Originally Posted by Naab

Two inches in nine months? I’m not saying it didn’t happen, but it’s hard to believe. If it is true it’s very, very rare, and I wouldn’t count on such amazing results. Really sounds more like an advertisement than a real testimonial.

What’s he selling? :D

Isn’t it funny how someone with almost no experience will dismiss pills and pe devices without ever trying them in their routine at least. It’s almost the same as an average guy rejecting the supplements he never tried for not helping him in the gym. Pe like working out and anything for that matter, takes trial and error and a whole lot of dedication over time.

Originally Posted by rocketeer57
Seriously guys,

I spent 50 bucks on this extender, used it constantly for 6 months and didnt see a thing. Been jelqing casually for several weeks and definitely feel something going on, and in a good way.

Unfortunately, I’ve been a little lazy and havent gotten around to it in awhile but I will definitely be starting up again.

But in the meantime, I mean why waste money on pills, devices, etc when we can just use these exercises that apparently have been around for a long time?

What do you all think? Is it worth spending the extra $$ for supplements and more devices when we’re on a forum devoted to natural exercises?

I respectfully disagree. I own an extender and while I won’t say the name of the brand it was quite pricey around a few hundred bucks, and it worked. My routine was so sporadic that I really didn’t have a routine per se, but it definitely gave me almost a half an inch in length. I’m not quite so sure about the gains in girth because I have been doing manual PE very sporadically as well for years and I did pick up some girth from that; maybe around a half inch as well. Perhaps the gains in both directions could be attributed to easy early gains.

My only qualm with my extender is that the springs which apply the pressure outward from the body are obviously very small, and in comparison to the force needed to properly stretch the ligs in the penis, they were somewhat inadequate which left me to sort of have to hold it outstretched for a few minutes in the fully open position while my ligaments adjusted. After that initial adjustment period, though, I could slowly let go of it and it would stay where it was for the remainder of my set. Then I would just adjust it a little bit longer, and repeat the process for each set. This minor hindrance was easily overcome so overall I do not find this to be a big problem.

The extender also has the benefit of allowing you to methodically track how much stretch you’re applying from day to day since you can use the rods as a guide to see how far you’ve come, which is nice.

Worth several hundred? Maybe not to some. For me, yes. When used carefully and properly I have gotten gains.

As for pills. I have never used penis enlargement pills. I’ll say a quick word about ejaculation pills however. I have normal ejaculation volume and wanted to increase the amount so I started looking up the ingredients in pills like Semenax and what have you. A lot of them share the same ingredients so I went out and bought the most common ones:

Arginine
Lysine
Folic Acid
Selenium
Zinc
Horny Goat Weed
Saw Palmetto

What I have noticed is this. After taking this cocktail of vitamins and herbs, I do not know if my maximum ejaculate volume has increased, because I have not been able to get past one day without fucking my girlfriend at least once; sometimes twice. It’s worth it to note that I’ve been taking this blend for about 5 days now and every day I get to a point where I am so aroused that I just have to screw. I also have no ED; previously I would fuck a few times a week and masturbate once a day or so.

If I ever get to a point where I can hold back from ejaculation for a few days I guess I will find out if my maximum volume increased but I did notice something in terms of volume: All orgasms I’ve had since taking these pills were inside her except one which I let go on her chest. This was at night. The volume was equivalent to what it would have been if I were to abstain for 3-4 days. What surprised me is that I had gotten off earlier that day, so the volume at night for me should have been about half of what it was.

Sorry this post has been so wordy but I wanted to give the other side of the coin for those who might have been considering an extender or orgasm pills and wanted to hear yet some more anecdotal evidence before making their decision.

In conclusion:

Worth It?

Extender: YES
Orgasm Pills: YES but probably cheaper to buy your own ingredients than some brand name.

Hope this helps.


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Originally Posted by rocketeer57
No, I found out about penis exercises about a month and a half ago. I said I used an extender device for 6 months and saw no results, in length or girth. But since I’ve done just a little bit of Pegym/thunders, I definitely feel progress going on. I’m currently 5” erect and 3.5” soft. My goal is to reach at least 7” erect and 5 inches soft.

According to member Pahctna38, he was able to go from 5 to 7” erect in 9 months from dry jelqing.
pahctna38 - dry jelq gains

I just want to give you a perspective.

If you have consistently worn your extender for 6 months, at least 3hr a day with medium force (where you don’t get an injury), then chances are you could be falling into the “hard gainer” category. I have been doing various PE activities for 1.5 year and I have managed to only gain around 1/4-3/8” in length. No kidding! And my 6 months of wearing a VacExtender did not yield me any gain at all. I was wearing it everyday for 4-6 hours.

So the fact you didn’t gain anything for 6 months of using extender (and by the sound that you haven’t injured yourself so you were probably using moderate force), I seriously doubt you would even gain 1” in a year’s time. And even 1” in a year’s time is considered to be “easy gainer”.

Many guys who claimed to gain 1”+ within a year might have re-gained the loss inches by doing PE. The first sign of positive PE is seeing positive erection qualities. So the improved erection quality can easily account for 3/8-1/2” re-gaining.

It seems like your erection quality might be already “good”, so it will take a lot more effort to find a routine that will help you grow.

I just want to put some perspective in your expectation. But I still wish you best luck for your first inch.


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Originally Posted by kubchaser
I just want to give you a perspective.

If you have consistently worn your extender for 6 months, at least 3hr a day with medium force (where you don’t get an injury), then chances are you could be falling into the “hard gainer” category. I have been doing various PE activities for 1.5 year and I have managed to only gain around 1/4-3/8” in length. No kidding! And my 6 months of wearing a VacExtender did not yield me any gain at all. I was wearing it everyday for 4-6 hours.

So the fact you didn’t gain anything for 6 months of using extender (and by the sound that you haven’t injured yourself so you were probably using moderate force), I seriously doubt you would even gain 1” in a year’s time. And even 1” in a year’s time is considered to be “easy gainer”.

Many guys who claimed to gain 1”+ within a year might have re-gained the loss inches by doing PE. The first sign of positive PE is seeing positive erection qualities. So the improved erection quality can easily account for 3/8-1/2” re-gaining.

It seems like your erection quality might be already “good”, so it will take a lot more effort to find a routine that will help you grow.

I just want to put some perspective in your expectation. But I still wish you best luck for your first inch.


Damn. Well, I am still only 1.5 months into PE and hope to continue into the future trying both wet and dry jelqing. I’ve been sick this past week so I thought it was appropriate to take a break.

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