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Does it matter if you are not hard

Hey members of Thunder’s Place.

OK. I started the newbie routine today. However I jelqed whilst my penis was flaccid. Is that a problem. Is it necessary to have a semi-erection whilst jelqing?

Any help would be thoroughly appreciated.

Thank you

Utterly flaccid- or just not significantly erect?

You can’t jelq at 0% or 100% erect- generally around 60%-85% is the sweet spot.

What do those percentages mean?

Welcome to the wonderful world of your dick- make friends and work it out.

With 0% erection you are simply doing rhythmic stretches.


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Yes. Was 0%. Damn. So wasted session. I need to know what cushion times there are between my 5 minutes of hot massaging with a towel to the 5 minutes of manual stretching to the 10 minute jelq.

Can I wait a little after the manual stretching to get a boner?

Thanks for your help Andro. Much appreciated.

Do it at your own pace. But IMO, probably more efficient time wise, to jelq as soon as you are done stretching (including time to work up erection).


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Nothing is wasted- now you’ve learned something that isn’t the very best direction for your efforts.

Much of this you’ll have to suss out for yourself- how much, how many, how often, etcetera- all we can offer are basic guidlines- and if you haven’t already tried, I suggest you stick with the newbie routine as written- you can find it in my sig.

Stretch first, jelq second- or is that jelq first stretch second?- again, no ‘rules’. Trial and error.
Personally after a good stretch, my unit isn’t giving up much good wood- I’d rather take advantage of available wood.

Don’t think of it as a brick in a wall- think of it as ‘practice’- like yoga for your peepee. You just keep refining and refining until you’ve achieved the best you can be.

If you’re lucky and your name ain’t Bobbitt, you’re going to have your unit for the rest of your life- don’t try and get a monster cock before next Friday- you won’t win that bet.
Enjoy your PE- think of it as a little me time.

We not me me- you me- I mean you you time- whatever- you understand.


WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

^That gets extremely hard when you live with 2 other people and only one bathroom and you keep getting questions about why you are spending so long in the bathroom.

Just from experience. haha


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Originally Posted by aom91
^That gets extremely hard when you live with 2 other people and only one bathroom and you keep getting questions about why you are spending so long in the bathroom.

Just from experience. haha

try using a noose extender - you be sure to get “why do you go to the bathroom so often”

It’s hard to hide from roomies


PE START (11/10/07) 6.0 NBP x ~5.1 CURRENT (3/07/08) 6.75 NBP x 5.5 - 7.25 BPEL

1/4" with Noose extender (11/06-03/07) - Zero gains with Vac-hanging/Extender and ADS (05/07-11/07) -

1/2" gain with modified Vac-Extender (/w spring loaded compression bars) and manual routine since 1/10/08. ----- Having erection issues? Get off the aspartame! I did and a couple months later my cock is hard as a rock!

Or pretend to take a poop and you could jelq for 10 mins, then in the shower for another 5-10mins then 5 mins actually showering. Thats 10 on the crapper and 15 in the shower.I wouldn’t suspect anything


Nbpel - 6.5" Bpel 7.25" Eg 5.125"

^Haha. I like you thinking.


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Try using a fairly loose cock ring to help maintain erection quality while jelqing.


06/21/07 NBP = 7.75(tape) FSL = 7.875 EG = 5.00 Volume= 15.42

09/13/07 NBP = 8.375 FSL = 8.75 EG = 5.38 Volume = 19.29 (+25%)

12/26/07 NBP = 8.625 FSL = 8.75 EG = 5.50 Volume = 20.82 (+35%)

Originally Posted by FastStretcher
try using a noose extender


No. Do not try this.

For a few reasons.

The first is this: the Newbie Routine is the best introduction to PE. Most people get their best gains from it. It is tried and true.

It also has the effect of helping people get to know their physiology better than any mechanical device ever could. Learning how your body responds to stress is a big part of successful PE.

Lastly, it’s true that stretchers have been show to be effective, but the noose stretchers are the least desirable. First, because they are sold commercially for way too money, and secondly, but more importantly because the noose will give you circulation issues.

Of the commercial products the Penimaster is much better and monkeybar has a vacuum based extender that is better still. Anyone can go to the Review part of the forum and see all the different stretchers and make their own judgment.

But in the meantime do not short-change yourself of the benefits of the Newbie Routine.


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Originally Posted by aom91

^Haha. I like you thinking.

It’s what I use to do :)


Nbpel - 6.5" Bpel 7.25" Eg 5.125"

Hi. Sorry about this.

I worked out today and I can say my penis was definitely bigger whilst doing the routine. However I found it hard to keep a semi-erection but my penis was able to maintain the biggest it could go in the flaccid state ( I think) without getting even a little hard.

And after my routine went soft kind of quickly.

Any thoughts/tips from anyone?

Like I said I’m sorry about asking a few too many questions but I do appreciate the help.

Suggest you jelq first, then stretch.

How flaccid are we talking- a really soft semi? If you were even slightly engorged, you’re no longer at that 0% level- start estimating in terms of % erect- not ‘flaccid’ [it’s a mindset thing].
Your flaccid improvement is a good PI [Physiological Indicator]

Are you watching porn? Using magazines? Reading erotica*? What are you doing to stimulate your wood?

Don’t make this ‘just work’- take the opportunity to learn everything about what makes your dick tick.

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WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

I’m in the bathroom just looking at myself in the mirror. I do this really late at night like 2 in the morning. I think you make a good suggestion - I should jelq then stretch.

I might start doing it in my room.

Is it ok to bed hump a little before I jelq.

(I don’t masterbate at all. I bed hump. You guys might think I’m a little strange (or maybe not) but it feels good)

Oh that brings me to another question.

If I bed hump instead of masterbate would it still make sense not to cum and to edge.

I’ve been cumming at least once a day for the last 2 and a half years and recently I’ve started cumming like 3 times (all mostly in the evenings apaced out between 8 at night and 4 in the morning) but I’ve just started to edge (yesterday).

Also I’m pretty sure bed humping puts less strain on the penis (I do it in my underwear).

Oh nearly forgot to say thanks.

Thanks everyone.especially androNYC.


Last edited by MMAfanatic : 01-06-2008 at .
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