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Originally Posted by Joe_joe
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:up: I was just about to link it but you beat me to it. That thread helps provide some answers not only about size but also concerning how often bp or nbp is the selected measurement method.

Originally Posted by beenthere
:up: I was just about to link it but you beat me to it. That thread helps provide some answers not only about size but also concerning how often bp or nbp is the selected measurement method.

I believe nbp is the most often method used. Many studies in that link didn’t specify but the sizes given in those studies appear to indicate nbp was most often used.

Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
There again, everyone is entitled to their opinion. This is mine. I believe that I was pretty clear in saying I didn’t want to hijack this thread, and I still don’t. I also believe that I have stated that I would never get “statistics” from any biased site; sales,phalloplasty,or any type of marketing driven site.

No one here is an “authority” in the scientific community or any other on PE. This is a melting pot of research by us, the PE novices in a relatively virgin frontier( PE online communities). All the studies that you read give an average “range”; in that range, I’m going to say, IN MY OPINION, that 6 x 5 is the average (most common size).

You can keep trying to call me into “the great debate”, but you are wasting your time and trashing this thread by doing so. As far as BPEL measurements being used in all the studies done, I can’t prove or disprove that, so I won’t argue it one way or the other.

I am well aware of the criteria used for measuring progress, ie; BP FL,BPFSL, etc, etc, but I still believe that claiming “real world” BPL is BS. It is done and if a person so chooses to claim that length then that is his prerogative; however, when he drops trou, he better hope that his newly found princess is not a mathematics major or mechanical engineer or the gig will be up!

Don’t get me wrong, I love Thunders and I support every single individual here like a brother, but I am a 38 year old, educated, experienced “novice”, as we all are, PE vet who has an opinion and 6 x 5 is it.

There’s a difference between having an opinion on something which can’t be determined with greater accuracy than by empirical observation, and just being bullheaded when presented with data to the contrary.

You can believe whatever you want. Perhaps you’re recommending making a distinction between public claims that might be subject only to a visual verification, and then sure, that seems a fairly prudent thing to do.

When you have yet to present a study in which the average has been determined to be 6x5 NBPEL, it doesn’t make any sense to cling to the statement “IN MY OPINION, that 6 x 5 is the average (most common size).” without clarifying what you meant by it, while seeming to imply you believe it’s NBPEL. You keep saying BPEL vs NBPEL makes no difference, and you state “As far as BPEL measurements being used in all the studies done, I can’t prove or disprove that, so I won’t argue it one way or the other. “

And yet, you *are* arguing it. At least, that is MY opinion.


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Originally Posted by beenthere
I believe nbp is the most often method used. Many studies in that link didn’t specify but the sizes given in those studies appear to indicate nbp was most often used.

The “test” for that is to examine whether the FSL measurements correlate with the implied erect length - and then compare those to studies that explicitly state whether the measurement was bone pressed or not. When I see studies that focus on FSL because the methodology makes it clear that the surveyors expect FSL to approximate erect length, the rest of the BPEL studies make perfect sense. Ie, you can see that an Iranian study of 1500 men with a FSL of 4.6inch isn’t unreasonable compared to the German study which yielded 5.7BPEL.


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Originally Posted by beenthere
I believe nbp is the most often method used. Many studies in that link didn’t specify but the sizes given in those studies appear to indicate nbp was most often used.

By the way, concerning the linked to thread, in the Lifestyles study Para has said he had originally assumed from some wording that it was nbp but that it could have been bp. Comparing it’s result to the results of other studies it is beginning to appear that it quite possibly could have been bp.

Originally Posted by Fantom
The “test” for that is to examine whether the FSL measurements correlate with the implied erect length - and then compare those to studies that explicitly state whether the measurement was bone pressed or not. When I see studies that focus on FSL because the methodology makes it clear that the surveyors expect FSL to approximate erect length, the rest of the BPEL studies make perfect sense. Ie, you can see that an Iranian study of 1500 men with a FSL of 4.6inch isn’t unreasonable compared to the German study which yielded 5.7BPEL.

I don’t exactly recall the exact study now, but I’ve seen a doctor study before that compared FSL to EL and it was found to be close. If I recall correctly the FSL was overall in general about .25” shorter. That study was said to be the basis for which many doctors have chosen to use the quick practical FSL instead of having to fool with EL.

Originally Posted by Fantom
There’s a difference between having an opinion on something which can’t be determined with greater accuracy than by empirical observation, and just being bullheaded when presented with data to the contrary.

You can believe whatever you want. Perhaps you’re recommending making a distinction between public claims that might be subject only to a visual verification, and then sure, that seems a fairly prudent thing to do.

When you have yet to present a study in which the average has been determined to be 6x5 NBPEL, it doesn’t make any sense to cling to the statement “IN MY OPINION, that 6 x 5 is the average (most common size).” without clarifying what you meant by it, while seeming to imply you believe it’s NBPEL. You keep saying BPEL vs NBPEL makes no difference, and you state “As far as BPEL measurements being used in all the studies done, I can’t prove or disprove that, so I won’t argue it one way or the other. “

And yet, you *are* arguing it. At least, that is MY opinion.

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What’s the problem exactly, Fantom?

I’m having trouble seeing where this is going myself.


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Originally Posted by marinera
What’s the problem exactly, Fantom?

It just bothers me when people have no good reason for being wrong.


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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard

Pot: Hey kettle.

Kettle: Yes pot?

Pot: you’re black!

I think that sums it up politely.


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Originally Posted by Fantom
It just bothers me when people have no good reason for being wrong.

This can’t become the topic of this thread. Not many members are interested in this ‘battle’ I think. If 9-inch-richard wants to believe that the ‘real’ size of the penis is the NBPEL, I can’t see why do you feel so harmed. I can’t see any conclusive argument for a party or another, I could add. Think at it like ‘two schools of thinking’, or something,

Originally Posted by marinera
This can’t become the topic of this thread. Not many members are interested in this ‘battle’ I think. If 9-inch-richard wants to believe that the ‘real’ size of the penis is the NBPEL, I can’t see why do you feel so harmed. I can’t see any conclusive argument for a party or another, I could add. Think at it like ‘two schools of thinking’, or something,

Okay. Back to the thread original topic .few of the the studies I have seen have revealed any substantial relationship between race and penis size with the possible exception that some Asians might tend to be smaller than average. I notice there weren’t any Chinese penis size studies.so more than 20% of the global population wasn’t even represented. Hardly seems conclusive, at any rate.

If anyone does know of more size surveys that might scientifically reveal a variation in penis size with respect to race, I hope to see it.


4/2008 Bpel 6.50, Beg 5.5, Mseg 4.9

6/2008 Bpel 6.75, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

9/2008 Bpel 7.00, Beg 5.5, Mseg 5.1

It’s all about what you want to believe, even if there was data that showed this people would just do their best to disprove it to fit their own notions. Whatever helps you sleep better at night lol..

I will search for that type of survey and post as much of them as I can for you, but, and don’t freak out on me here boys, my opinion on race in relationship to dick size is that dick size is about as different and relevant in regard to race as shoe size is.

By the way, I think I have an excellent idea in regard to thread flaming and arguments that hijack threads because of difference of opinion or out right attacks like name calling and other such childish things.

I have been a member of this community since 2005. I love Thunders place and I support everyone here, whether I agree with them all of the time or not. I have seen many a thread get steered off course due to difference of opinion, arguments over interpretation of comments, flaming pics or newbie questions, etc.

My suggestion to our chief and his moderators is simple. We can create a thread that is strictly for the sole purpose of hashing out differences. It will have a set of guidelines, like any other, about such things as heinous personal attacks of course, and whatever the mods think is appropriate. If a person starts to become argumentative and lead the thread astray, he is simply directed to take it “behind the barn” , meaning of course to our settling disputes thread!

There you can be so much more creative! You can hash out your pages long back and forth garbage and it will keep people from disrupting the topic of the thread, it will keep troop morale up and it’s just damn funny reading sometimes!

Give it some thought fellas. Thunder is a bright individual and his mods are generally on the ball. Just my .02


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