Defeated, Losing hope that its even possible

Strap on an extender for 1200 hours and I bet you gain at least 0.50”. Will cost you under $500.00, but will require a tremendous amount of commitment to reach those 1200 hours.

Ill post in detail tomorrow, decent thread on the young guy anxiety thing. I have it cripplingly bad, the point where once I’m sure nothing will work ill commit suicide.

Dam, 2 hours a day for 1.6 years for half an inch? Makes it seem like everyone who claims manual stuff works are bullshitting. Ill think about it.

Don’t get all caught up with this guy, he has played the money game before in the past. Claiming he will pay someone who helps him gain, after a handful of people tried to help.

If he doesn’t want to believe in PE, then he won’t. Simple as that. He’s been given all the help he could get.

I have 900 hours logged on extender and about 173 hours on a mix of jelqing, pumping, clamping, etc. all logged to the minute. I just posted snapshots of my log on 8x6 Dream’s thread.

I have gained .25” girth and less than an inch in length.

For me I have found significant amounts of
effort/time providing incremental results. I’m logging everything and had one 7 month stretch where I logged 397 total hours PE with 0 measurable results. It can for sure be frustrating.
I also attribute some of my lack of results over that time to over pumping and probably could have increase tension on the extender, but was playing it conservatively, which is not all for nothing as it promotes acclimation to the current max tension setting before moving forward. I have no injuries as of today, knock on wood.

I guess you just need to decide if you are willing to continue to experiment and put the time in.

Best wishes

I first saw this site like in 2006 or 2007 when my long term girlfriend basically told me i had a small dick. I bought a pump from a porn shop and tried it out one time and didnt really care for how it felt(didnt have a gauge on it and im sure i way over pumped) and convinced myself that this site was bullshit. 10 years later i found it again because i had lost a ton kof weight and was on a tear to fix everything i disliked about myself. Decided that although i didnt believe it was possible i also doubted this website would be around this long on pure bs so fuck it lets try it. Started with the newbie routine and saw some minor gains but i figure that’s from improved EQ or measuring. To be honest i dont like the manual stuff because its too open to interpretation. For example pull hard but not too hard. Jelq with a tight grip but not too tight etc. Hard for me to feel a consistent work out.

So i ditched the jelqing and bought a pump and followed a strict routine. Have gained at a minimum half an inch in less then 4 months doing it. I am now a huge believer in this site and I kick myself for having blown it off 10 years ago. Fuck what i could have right now if i had been PEing the last 10 years lol. If manuals dont work go buy a pump and a good heating pad you will spend less then $100 and i am 90% sure you will get results.

Do you want to kill yourself because of your penis size? do you have what a micro penis (between 8cm)? First go see a urologist, they will prescribe you an extender for you to use like 6 hours a day, believe me it will work, what won’t work is your negative thinking. Your anxiety makes you think that way, believe me I have anxious depression. I don’t know what is like to have an small penis and I will never know how you feel about that subject, but I know how you think, and what I can tell you is that you need to find something that you will make you feel like you have a future or at least a year to expect something, because if you feel you have a future you won’t think like wanting results the day next the exercise, thus anxiety crisis won’t come everyday and make you feel like horse shit for most part of your day. For me it is studying and expect the approval in the medicine university so I work my ass off on the chair everyday studying as harder and best as I can to achieve it, of course there are days that I can’t and there is when the drugs come in (antidepressants and nootropics), and as I want a big dog I will have at least 2 years to expect it as a puppy to grow to an adult dog, and in the process of growth I will enjoy and live with the puppy until his adult phase, do you understand what am I saying and the line of thinking?

The words you are typing are your anxiety, you have to overcome it, go see a psychologist and then a psychiatric, you need medication, it ain’t a joke man, I know. You need to find something real and true for yourself, and when you find it you will realize that your life matter, and in the process of all of it, you will be PEing, if your penis grow great, if you are not having the results you are expecting then see it for another angle and then if there are necessity change your routine as your experience with your penis tells you.

Abraço.

Is this meant to discredit me, legit said in OP I been trying offer money for ages.. This kind of behaviour is exactly why I think you guys lie. Very few people have actually gave me any help what so ever, and to those that did, It didn’t work and can’t physically work. I do WANT to believe in PE but I don’t believe in things that are not real. Why is this so hard to grasp? I’m also not saying anyone is wrong, I’m saying that maybe its a shared delusion. You will also notice that people who can stretch there penis have a large penis to begin with, because there is more flesh to stretch.

Exact rude response I expected and trying to call me a scammer again “crying laughing face emojeeeeee”

Actual valuable post, how much length exactly did you gain, and are there any photos?

Have you not done some research and seen the countless photos from users that have gained length and girth?

There is well over ten years on this site of photo proof, from people all over the world that have gained, with before and after photos.

You don’t think everyone that has posted on this forum for over 15 years, is to to “scam” people, do you?

I’m sorry but there’s nothing for us to tell you. And your asking for help, have you even given us the exact routines you tried that didn’t work? I know you’ve been asked a few times.

Not sure how you expect to engender good faith with this attitude. No amount of money will make us do magic on your dick, that isn’t how it works.

Mainly because PE is real. I’ve put tons of time and money in. I joined this site, started donating and have written almost 5000 posts on things that work, given advice and inspiration. Your insistence that we are all here performing a scam doesn’t bear out in numbers since we gain nothing and lose valuable time “scammng” guys like you to no actual productive end.

You posit every possible claim about how PE doesn’t work. This site chugs along, taking nothing and providing zero incentives to post and share stories. Then, we all must be smoking the same good weed to share the delusion. Despite there being plenty of smaller guys who have gained and pictures. I have to say, your inability to make PE work doesn’t discredit the tales of those who have made it work. It’s presumptuous to make that claim.

I don’t want to silence you. But offering 1000 USD to random people on the internet sounds pretty scammy. Making a habit of it on other forums doesn’t add credibility or make it sound less like a scam. I don’t know what the other mods think but it smells funny to me, any way I look at it.

Then, there is the obvious poison tree nature of this offer.

You pay someone $1000 and you get results. Good case.

You pay someone $1000 and you don’t get results and parade around like you’ve won the lottery and proven your point.
Bad case.

You get someone to help you and do not gain. You parade around like you’ve won the lottery and wasted a members time 1 on 1 with you to no reward of someone trying to help you.
Worst case.

You get someone to help you gain, whether you pay or not.
Best case.

Fact is, your decision that PE will not work will impact your results or lack thereof. Period. I’ve coached guys before and helped them get started and reach goals. Help them see gains and recover from injury. The guys with your attitude I couldn’t help. I spent more time justifying everything I said than actually getting anything done and the triumphant nature of someone fixated on failure grates me.

Your thread title is also deceptive. It says “losing hope that it is possible” when you are quite certain in your mind that PE will get you nowhere and have been, for some time. You have people earnestly trying to help you and you are you are sitting back, shooting them down because they were kind enough to offer assistance.

So, I would have to say…most of us with the experience to coach would pass on your generous offer. I know I would. It isn’t worth the headache and has questionable legal ramifications.

But, if you want help in this thread, post exactly what you’ve tried and the routines and schedules you followed so others can actually offer input and help you. That’s the best most of us can do for you.

You’re contradicting yourself here, if something can stretch and be lengthened then it works.
True if you can only gain by say 30% then those starting larger can gain more in absolute terms but everyone can gain.

I told you hanging worked for me and you say “it can’t physically work” so I guess you’re calling me a liar or delusional as well.
Either way I don’t feel inclined to offer any help now.

Good luck with it.

I have never shared photos, some do, some don’t. If you require photos from me before trusting my experience, then I guess I can say no more. However, I will say this, if I was bullshitting here I guess I might start off back in 2015 saying that I had a penis starting out at 8x6. I might also have stated that since starting PE I am now 9x6.5, but all that is not my experience. However I am capable of bragging, I will say that over the past 15 years with my wife we have had sex daily, barring those few unfortunate sick days or such that pop up here and there. So I do have that.

Like I said, PE is a grind. I had a 7 month stretch that I am trying to figure out what went wrong. The data and others here lead me to conclude that I was pumping way too much and at too high of a vacuum. So I reflect, make changes, collect data, and begin the process over again.

Not sure if you work out at all, but there are some similarity’s between getting visible results in PE and getting visible results in the gym. There are people that go to the gym every day and just never seem to attain any visually noticeable changes, why? Because there are so many variables that need to be controlled and understood to make real gains. One variable being that the nutritional profile that works for me might not be right for you. Also, the balance between rest, intensity and consistency all play a part. It takes years for some individuals to find what works for them to become more fit. Also it takes visualization and belief on their part. Trainers will tell you in the gym the same thing people are telling you here, a major component to success is visualization and belief. See your self more jacked and believe you can do it.

Know that it is the journey you have to enjoy, not just the results, know there will be bumps in the road. If you can’t fall in love with the process then you might as well walk now, because the process is 99% of what you get. The gains are long term and incremental.

Best wishes.

Well said Bro.

You will commit sucide ??If nothing works you are a totally negative person.

look, I’m not trying to be rude but you are totally wrong.

Listen for some manual will work and for some they will need more force and for some they will need more advanced stuff like devices and extenders and clamps and pumps and then they will start seeing gains.

You cant just judge everyone to be the same and to put us all in the same category.

From the way you are speaking you seem totally ignorant in PE stuff even though you claim to know well and almost everything about PE stuff.

Your conclusions do not follow from the premises.

Like this:
Money can buy anything (this is what you imply)
Money can’t buy PE.
Therefore, PE doesn’t work.

Or

Ligs dont stretch in minutes like muscles
Therefore logs don’t grow over time.

Do you see the error in your thinking? At least admit that…

Can you consider that:

1. Money can’t buy everything

2.ligaments do lengthen. If you have surgery on a joint where they replace the ligament, initially it is not the perfect length for the job. Through physical therapy and use, the lig adjusts to the perfect length. The demands placed upon it are answers but adjusting it’s length.

Ligs strengthen too.

Look, in my experience these are needed for PE.

1. Faith
2. Feeling good about your sessions. And feeling good during them! If my body is racked with the stress of life I skip PE, because I know the session will be shitty and the recover won’t be fun (turtle town)
3. Curiosity - I’m constantly looking for new variations on the manual excercises to manipulate the tissue ever more effectivly

4. Getting deep into it. PE is not simply a mechanical checkbox for me. Is a deep meditative practice.