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Correlation between BPEL and BPSFL?

Correlation between BPEL and BPSFL?

Right now my BPEL is around 7.25 and my BPSFL is around 7.8 or so. I just measured it for the second time today, the first time I measured it was probably around two months ago and it was I think 7.3 and my BPEL was around 6.9 Is there any relationship between gains in BPEL and BPSFL?


March 7th/2012 BPEL: 6.7 EG:4.6 June 4/13 BPEL 7.00 NBPEL 6.4 EG: 4.6

Short term goal: 7.0 NBPEL EG: 4.75

Coming back from a year long layoff.

A proportional correlation not so much— BUT in my opinion an increase in BPFSL will generally precede one in BPEL.

I was always very close between two, like less than .10” and needed to grow in the former before the latter could grow.


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Lets try a Sports Metaphor

Of course, from my perspective, this is all theory. But from my experience, this is the model that I have used.

Before you start your PE exercises, your BPFSL and BPEL are some distance apart … say .25 inches. That is to say that your BPFSL is a bit longer.

As you begin to exercise your dick with stretches, jelqs, clamps, squeezes, rain dances etc … the tissues begin to deform and get bigger / longer.

I believe that this first manifests itself in an increase in BPFSL and with continued exercise it translates into BPEL. Then with further exercise the gains in BPEL become “cemented” gains.

On Bib’s site, I believe that he referred to the growth of BPFSL as gains that were “on-deck” (as in baseball) waiting to be cemented.

Some of the more medically educated members on this forum (God bless them) have offered explanations involving collagen, smooth muscle tissue, and other medical terms. Personally, even though I read every word of it with as much intensity as I can muster, it has taken a bit of time for it to sink in. I guess my mind responds better to sports metaphors !


Starting (10 / 2011): 6.50 BPEL, 5.50 MEG

Current: 7.50 BPEL, 6.00 MEG

Goal: 8.50 BPEL 6.50 MEG

I always thought the difference between ‘potential’ size/ total tissue and ‘activated’ size/ tissue.


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Originally Posted by Printman
Of course, from my perspective, this is all theory. But from my experience, this is the model that I have used.

Before you start your PE exercises, your BPFSL and BPEL are some distance apart … say .25 inches. That is to say that your BPFSL is a bit longer.

As you begin to exercise your dick with stretches, jelqs, clamps, squeezes, rain dances etc … the tissues begin to deform and get bigger / longer.

I believe that this first manifests itself in an increase in BPFSL and with continued exercise it translates into BPEL. Then with further exercise the gains in BPEL become “cemented” gains.

On Bib’s site, I believe that he referred to the growth of BPFSL as gains that were “on-deck” (as in baseball) waiting to be cemented.

Some of the more medically educated members on this forum (God bless them) have offered explanations involving collagen, smooth muscle tissue, and other medical terms. Personally, even though I read every word of it with as much intensity as I can muster, it has taken a bit of time for it to sink in. I guess my mind responds better to sports metaphors !

Good information to know, but I started on the other end of the spectrum.

When I started PE, my BPFSL was somewhere between 4.5 to 5 inches, but now it’s 6 inches.


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I personally have not noticed any major correlation between the two.


Starting measurements (August 2009): BPEL: 7.625in EG:6.25in BPFSL: 7.5in flaccid BP length:4in

"Peak" measurements (Oct. 2012): BPEL: 8in EG: 6.625in BPFSL: 8.375 in flaccid BP length: 6in

Current measurements (Nov. 2017): BPEL: 8in EG: 5.75in BPFSL: 8.25in flaccid BP length: 6in

@ Eggs,

I would look at a 1 inch growth in BPFSL as a very encouraging sign and an indication that i shoudl continue my current routine so that this increase in BPFSL translates into an increase in BPEL in the next month or so.


Starting (10 / 2011): 6.50 BPEL, 5.50 MEG

Current: 7.50 BPEL, 6.00 MEG

Goal: 8.50 BPEL 6.50 MEG

I believe that if you have increased your BPFSL then you should start to see gains coming. In my opinion it indicates that you are doing things correctly. There is a thread on the TGC theory and it explains limiting factors and how to interpret the differences between the two measurements. Even if one does not believe in the theory it will still help you to understand how they may or may note relate to each other and the potential gains to come.

If your stretched flaccid is longer then you have created enough stress to either cause lig stretch or plastic deformation of the tunica, the first option is the most likely especially with newer or “newbie gains”. Best of luck with your goals.

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