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Cool down instead of warm down

I am curious as well. Bump!

I think that each person would react his own way. Try the cool down and let us know how it has affected you.

Effects of thermal therapy in improving the passive range of knee motion: comparison of cold and superficial heat applications

Y H Lin
Department of Physical Therapy and Graduate Institute of Rehabilitation Science, Chang Gung University, Kweishan, Taoyuan, Taiwan, Republic of China

Objective: To assess the effect of applying a hot pack followed by a cold pack (COLD) on the passive range of knee flexion in subjects with restricted knee motion, specifically comparing this treatment to the application of a hot pack (HEAT) alone.

Design: Seventy-one subjects were randomized into two groups to conduct a clinical randomized before–after trial.

Interventions: Each subject received either (1) cold pack or (2) hot pack during passive knee joint stretching.

Main outcome measure: Goniometry was used to measure the passive knee flexion at the baseline (KROM1), before (KROM2) and after (KROM3) applications of a hot pack with/without a cold pack.

Results: Repeated ANOVA measurements revealed a marked increase in the passive range of knee flexion in the two study groups (p < 0.001). Moreover, the paired t-test displayed statistical increments of knee flexion across the different measurement phases, except for the treatment phase without the cold pack. The range of knee flexion following the treatment with the application of a cold pack significantly exceeded that after treatment without a cold pack.

Conclusion: Cold pack application had a limited but significant effect during mechanical stretching for restricted knee motion.

Lehman and associates (1970) studied the effects of heat and stretching on rat tail tendons.6 The results indicated that heating alone produced no significant elongation and that stretching alone produced no residual elongation. Significant elongation occurred if heat and stretch were combined. A greater increase in length was maintained if the stretch was held during the period of cooling since “reorganization of the tissues is thought to occur during the cooling period.”6 Overall, the most effective method of producing a plastic deformation of connective tissue was to apply a sustained stretch during the application of heat and to maintain the stretch during the period of cooling.
Lehmann JF, DeLateur BJ. Therapeutic heat. In: Lehmann JF, editor. Therapeutic heat and cold. 4th rev. ed. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkons, 1990: 417-59.

Lehmann JF, Masock AJ, Warren CG, Koblanski JN. Effect of therapeutic temperatures on tendon extensibility. Archives of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation 1970 Aug; 51(8): 481-7.

Turtling isn’t a good thing. You guys sure you’re not overworking it?

Thanks, marinera. Now where did I put the ice…

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For me I just don’t like the feeling of any thing cold on my penis, especially after PE. And I don’t think it’s logical. Warm down has the benefit of increase blood circulation, which is a good thing?

Originally Posted by mgus

Usually a hypothesis is based om some kind of scientific circumstance that one can extrapolate or reasonably assume to be valid in other cases as well.

Google: “Difference between a hypothesis and a theory”

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There were a couple of threads on this topic a while back, pretty extensively researched and all.

So like a cool down as in cold water over it instead of warm water?

Originally Posted by newnew997
So like a cool down as in cold water over it instead of warm water?

I think its as simple as not applying heat in the last ten minutes of your routine. Heat it up before and during, and lay off the heat an allow it to cool to body temp at the end.

I find, like marinera, that the penis hangs lower, longer if you cool the penis.

As mgus said its all theory as to whether it works related to the penis. The fact that my flaccid stays longer when I cool down keeps me doing it.

I'm consistent in spurts, but gains are undeniable!

2007: BPEL 5.5" / MSEG 4.7" / BG 5.5"

2017: BPEL 6.8" / MSEG 5.3" / BG 6"

I use the shower for my workout. Then for my last stretch (or girth hold in my case) I turn the shower to cold, then cool my heated shaft about halfway throught the hold. It only takes about 30 seconds (maybe less?) to bring the shaft to well below room temperature, but then the cold water here is COLD at the moment…

The science behind these routines says it all, we all have tunicas, and so everyone should be implementing this into their PE. I was actually surprised to see, the first time I did this, that there was almost no decrease in plumpness on my shaft (although I did “freeze” it in a VERY girthy state). It actually caused this plumped look to stay after my session.

The cold water doesn’t cause it to want to turtle?

Originally Posted by newnew997
The cold water doesn’t cause it to want to turtle?

Yes, but if your stretching it, it can’t turtle.

I'm consistent in spurts, but gains are undeniable!

2007: BPEL 5.5" / MSEG 4.7" / BG 5.5"

2017: BPEL 6.8" / MSEG 5.3" / BG 6"

So after a session, then putting on an ADS and staying away from heat be a better thing to do, it won’t let it turtle and will stay cool and stretched constantly?


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