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Confused and Fustrated - Need Some Guidance

I’ve been PEing for a few months now. My original starting stats were fairly average at about 6in BPEL and 5.3 EG. Before PE, my erections were fairly weak and limp. I wouldn’t have trouble getting it up but it was hard to maintain a rock hard erection for a long period of time. I searched around for a way to make my erections stronger and I found Thunder’s. I went on the newbie routine and got great results. My erections became rock hard and I gained about .5in in length and .45 in girth. I was hooked on PE and did a 2on 1off rountine and it was a good balance for me.

However, after several months I decided to go on a decon break and didn’t do PE for 2 weeks. After I resumed PE activities, it felt like my dick was very unreceptive to jelqing. I used the same routine as I always have and couldn’t figure out why this was happening. I tried different methods, light jelqs, slow jelqs, fast jelqs, heavy jelqs none of it seemed to work. My EQ went down drastically and I decided to stop PE completely. I haven’t PEd for awhile and just last night I noticed a little bit of discoloration on the underside of my dick, not much but definitely noticeable.

A few variables that could’ve influenced this sudden change. I started off PE using a power jelqer and have been using it since. After my 2 week break I incorporated kegels into my routine. I also started doing bed fowfers when I went to sleep. This exercises however, seem pretty light and I can’t see it having a major impact on the condition of my dick. If anyone have any ideas or suggestions or if you have gone through something similar, please give me some guidance!!

Here is my original routine:
15-20 min warm up with rice sock
50-75 3 second jelqs at 60-70% erection
2 sets of 30 second stretches in all directions
15-20 min warm down with rice sock or shower


Last edited by Mr. Happy : 01-03-2008 at . Reason: Thunder's for thunder's; paragraph

Right off the bat I’d suggest to put the stretches before the jelqs and see if that doesn’t help.

Kegels should only improve your EQ. That they don’t seem to for you makes me wonder how you’re doing them. It may sound stupid, but are these being done erect or not?

Regardless, I wouldn’t think Kegels or fowfers would have a dramatic effect one way or the other.

Could their be other issues? How’s your fitness level? Do you get enough sleep? Drink enough water? Do you smoke? Drink?

Think out side the box and let us know.


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Elusive, Mr.Happy gave you some good advice. To me streching before jelqing does make a subtle difference, so you might give that idea a try.

And remember, your penis is a part of your body - if your body is in bad shape, your penis will be too. Or perhaps you have just started working out?

Sounds silly, but I’ve noticed that if I do my PE right after working out, my dick feels much different then before working out.

Good call, Chicken.

Anything that negatively affects your aerobic function will negatively affect your erection quality. Conversely doing a PE workout after some exercise, when the body is warmed-up and the blood is flowing, is likely to help improve the PE routine, it stands to reason.


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Mr. Happy, great insight you provided. You actually might’ve hit the nail on the head with stretching before proceeding to jelq. I actually changed the order of my routine midway because it was just a lot more convenient for me to stretch in the shower (warm down period) after I jelqed. In terms of info about myself, I’m 24 and in great shape. I play sports twice a week and go to the gym regularly. My diet is also fairly strict and my weight is normal for my height. I don’t smoke and I drink alcohol once or twice a week at most. I will try stretching before I jelq and see if it makes a difference. For kegels am I supposed to do them erect or flaccid? I do both and never knew there was a distinction between the two types.

Chicken, I usually PE after I work out. What do you mean by your dick feeling different when you PE after working out? I’d like to hear your experience.

Thanks for the great help so far!

Well, in my experience my PE routine is better if my body is warm from a workout; then again, if I do a heavy and tiresome workout, my penis kind of retracts into my body.

I believe this is because if you are training heavy, no matter what, your penis will retract because your blood will go into the muscles you are using.

It’s not a bad idea to give it an hour or so after an intense work out.

elusivepe your basic living habits seem more than fine. Sleeping enough?

As far as Kegels, what is recommended in the Newbie Routine is 50 Kegels daily, which are performed when flaccid. Anything after that is gravy.


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elusivepe,

you “incorporated kegels and fowfers” into your new routine.

I avoid kegels. They are unnecessary and actually cause me to have weaker unresponsive erections. They will also bring on prostate problems in some men so forget about them entirely as far as reps and sets are concerned.

Also, you appear anxious about everything (the discolouration also). My advice is to calm down, back away for a few days and begin again slowly.

I disagree on kegels as well. I think their daily practice contributes greatly to erection quality and control.


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6-22-08: 7.5' BPEL, 7' NBPEL, 7.75' BPSFL, 5.25' EG

Goals: 8' NBPEL, 6' EG, 21' NBPSFL

Torso, I did notice weaker erections after doing a few sets of kegels. I can’t completely attribute my loss in EQ to them though. From what I’ve read and heard is that kegels are great for erection quality and have not seen any documentation to prove otherwise. The discoloration worries me however, I might stop using the power jelqer and start to use hand jelqing and see if the condition improves. Thanks for all the comments so far!

I don’t think Kegels are going to give anybody weaker erections.

Kegels are a benign exercise, I don’t see how they could possibly hinder erections unless they are done very hard while you have an erection. Even in that case the erection only weakens temporarily, as blood is drawn away from the penis into the BC muscle. Over all developing good muscle tone in the BC muscle via Kegels will only improve blood-flow and circulation. How could that hurt you?

If weaker erections are occuring I would look elsewhere.

The Power Jelqer may be the culprit, for example. You really only need moderate force to gain the benefits of jelqing. “Discoloration” is another word for bruising, so I’d guess you are maybe going too hard. With the Power Jelqer the temptation is to beat the hell out of yourself. If you can commit to moderate force, approximately 3 seconds from base to just before the glans, that will likely give you some improvement.

Check it out and don’t hesitate to update on your problems or concerns. :)


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This is all great advice. I’ll ditto the ditch the power jelqer advice.

If the discoloration is a bruise, you may need to hold off altogether as you are doing until it is gone.

I think you have a great routine in terms of the jelq amount.

Something you might try: When you start again, keep the amount of seconds consistent, whether it is 3 seconds or ten, and experiment with different amounts of jelqs. Start with your 50-75 and add more a few at a time until you feel it’s right. Don’t forget about taking days off, they are as important as the manipulations.


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Goal: Double digits

Hello Elusive,

I completely agree with Mr. Happy’s advice and also you should like Mr. Happy said think outside the box.

Maybe recently you started some drugs that might have caused this.

If the problems persists, you could consult a urologist.

Take care mate and keep us updated.


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Originally Posted by chronostone
This is all great advice. I’ll ditto the ditch the power jelqer advice.


I wouldn’t necessarily say ditch it altogether, but however jelqing is accomplished, have the self-discipline to use moderate force. That’s what’s important.

Less is more in this case.


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