Clarifications

I’ve been delving through these forums for over a week now, but after reading through ModestoMan’s personal research (ModestoMan - MRI of MY Penis.) I’m not really sure anymore on which stretches do what. Tell me if I’m wrong or right:

Stretching UP (from your LOT to the ceiling) stretches the Tunica and won't lower the angle of your erection over time.

Stretching DOWN (from your LOT to the floor) primarily stretches the Suspensory Ligament exposing the “inner penis” and lowering your erection angle. Downward stretching also stretches the Tunica but less so than upward stretching. And after the cap of Suspensory Ligament stretching is reached (as evidenced by a LOT approximately 7:30 and down), downward stretching’s only purpose would be to continue work on the Tunica.

So the stretches that are the hardest to gain from (about an inch a year) and are theoretically slow but unlimited length gaining potential are upward stretches? Yet at the same time, Jelqing will bulk the shaft (expanding outwardly in 360 degrees) giving you gains in both circumference and length.

Gains from Jelqing are also theoretically unlimited without recourse of loss over time because the Corpus Cavernosum is spongy tissue that can continually expand through growing new tissue fibers over old ones and is not, by any definition, similar to muscle fiber?

However, Corpus Cavernosum type gains will barely visibly affect flaccid length (and girth?) as the sole purpose of exercising them is to allow there to be more spongy tissue present to hold more blood during an erection. Tunica stretching, however, will increase both flaccid and erect lengths across the board.

So all long term PEing primarily targets the Corpus Cavernosum (Jelqs/Clamping) and the Tunica (upward stretches).

With that said, as a side question, what on earth is being manipulated in glans gains?

Oh, and one more question: applying heat over the top of the penis targets the ligs, and applying heat beneath the penis warms the Tunica. Did I get that right?

>Stretching UP … won’t lower the angle of your erection over time. Stretching DOWN … the Suspensory Ligament downward stretching’s only purpose would be to continue work on the Tunica.<

You would think that makes sense and it was certainly what I believed for the majority of my PEing (ignoring the LOT thing) but it seems that lowering your erection angle is a lot harder than it might seem.

Also in the end whichever direction you stretch you will put stress on the tunicae (unless you grip at the base or something). Stretch up and you will effect both tunica and ligs, stretch down and your will do the same but you will alter the way the stress is born and therefore which bits become easiest to stretch. Likewise if you manipulate the tunica, you can change the stress patterns in it.

>So the stretches that are the hardest to gain from (about an inch a year) and are theoretically slow but unlimited length gaining potential are upward stretches? Yet at the same time, Jelqing will bulk the shaft (expanding outwardly in 360 degrees) giving you gains in both circumference and length.<

Stretching the tunicae is harder than the ligs and the septum (the join between the two CC chambers) is extremely hard. You can investigate this for yourself by feel.

Gains become harder over time. It is postulated that the body adapts to the stress and this makes a lot of sense.

>Gains from Jelqing are also theoretically unlimited without recourse of loss over time because the Corpus Cavernosum is spongy tissue that can continually expand through growing new tissue fibers over old ones and is not, by any definition, similar to muscle fiber?<

Yeah but it’s the envelope rather than what s inside it that is the problem. If it was just spongy erectile tissue, PE would probably be a case of getting repeated erections.

Jelqing is good because of the way it supplies pressure and fucks around with the tunica.

>However, Corpus Cavernosum type gains will barely visibly affect flaccid length (and girth?) as the sole purpose of exercising them is to allow there to be more spongy tissue present to hold more blood during an erection. Tunica stretching, however, will increase both flaccid and erect lengths across the board.<

Actually you will probably find that you will become more of a shower. Why is a good question. Certainly the penis becomes tougher during the course of PE and this might have something to do with it.

Whether this is a build up of scar tissue or a thickening of the tunicae as a defense response to stress is something you might like to research and decide on yourself.

>So all long term PEing primarily targets the Corpus Cavernosum (Jelqs/Clamping) and the Tunica (upward stretches).<

Yup :)

>With that said, as a side question, what on earth is being manipulated in glans gains?<

The top of the CC. The CS and the capacity of the glans. Check out any decent anatomy for how the glans area is put together.

>Oh, and one more question: applying heat over the top of the penis targets the ligs, and applying heat beneath the penis warms the Tunica. Did I get that right?<

Applying heat to the pubic area will concentrate it on the ligs

Applying heat to the shaft warms the shaft.

Alright! :) Thanks for fielding this one memento. I’m sure us newbies are getting more and more out of hand everyday ^_^ That pretty much answers all I ever wanted to know about the terms and what we’re all guessing is really going on down there. Too bad the gains always slow down though ;( For us desperate cases (5x5.. *Glares at the Nordic Gods* :cuss: ) that just means we’ll have to make the best use of the first 4 months or so while still trying not to go overboard.

CONTINUOUS HEAT!! CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
(And less caps lock! .. No, thunder, really I didn’t mean- :bang: )

>I’m sure us newbies are getting more and more out of hand everyday ^_^ <

Actually the standard seems to be going up. It seems like most people are reading first :)

>Too bad the gains always slow down though For us desperate cases<

Yes but the people who carry on gaining, monitor their routine and change it when it stops working.

>that just means we’ll have to make the best use of the first 4 months or so while still trying not to go overboard. <

It’s hard to tell how one might gain initially but there are plenty of accounts of people gaining nothing for a substantial period of time and then starting to gain. I’m sure there are many more cases of people not gaining and giving up.

In this thing, knowledge is power. Spending some time working through the anatomy of the penis an it’s surrounding area, reading other people’s experience, learning new techniques and figuring out what they act on to build a good routine, and figuring out what combination works best for you are all things you should probably be doing.

Less smilies too :)