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BPFSL vs BPEL = gain potential?

I know there are many threads that talk about how length gain in BPFSL indicates BPEL to come, and many members have experienced this.

I would like to get some opinions on your personal growth, as I suspect that my lack of improvement in BPFSL is causing a delay in my BPEL gain.

My BPFSL is only 1/4” longer than BPEL. Throughout my 6 months of PE, BPFSL hasn’t really improved much (hence my slow gain in BPEL).

I would like to know the following from you:

1) When you start PE, how much is your BPFSL longer than BPEL (or vise versa)?

2) How much has your BPFSL gained in comparison to BPEL?

3) Do you experience BPFSL growth before BPEL? And is the difference beginning to widen?

For me:

1) BPFSL = BPEL (hasn’t changed much)
2) zero improvement between the two measurements
3) It’s hard to tell, I don’t usually measure BPFSL. The difference is only 1/4”. Will monitor the difference moving forward.

My hypothesis is that those who can gain more BPFSL quickly tend to gain faster in overall length (usually easy gainers in this category).

The reason I hypothesize this is that I have seen many big gainers with big flaccid and 0.5”+ BPFSL. Yes, there are a few exception to this. I am just talking about in general here. And of course, I could be wrong and that’s why I want to get a general consensus.

Thanks!


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

The first time I saw a shift in BPSFL I saw my first gain in BPEL. So perhaps there is a correlation for me.

Originally Posted by UM1991
The first time I saw a shift in BPSFL I saw my first gain in BPEL. So perhaps there is a correlation for me.

Do you measure BPFSL often? Is the gain in BPSFL larger than BPEL?


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

My BPFSL has always been greater than my BPEL. For some guys it is the other way around.

Initially, I think the difference was about .5”. For a while now, the difference has pretty consistently been .75”.

I tend to measure BPFSL more often than BPEL since it is more convenient to do so. It does seem that I will see a slight gain in BPFSL preceding a gain in BPEL, but that could be because I measure BPFSL more often.

I started PE with almost 1” difference in BPFSL and BPEL. That 1” difference stayed through my first 1” gain of BPEL. As my stretched length increased my erect length would follow closely behind.
After my first 1” gain the next 1/2” erect gain took longer and the gap between stretched length and erect length has decreased. I now have about a 5/8 to 3/4” difference between my stretched and erect lengths and my stretched length has not been growing lately, but neither has my erect length.

The last 1/2” gain that I had was strongly supported with my ADS use following manual stretches to hold it in a stretched state. My opinion is the ADS helped a lot in the BPFSL gain which then translated into BPEL gains.
I have not used my ADS for 8 months and my gains have largely stopped in both measurements. I am experimenting with pumping only right now to see if I gain anything. In a couple months I may go back to my older routine which gave me the last 1/2” gain. Right now I am looking more at girth and am in no rush.

Originally Posted by redbear52
My BPFSL has always been greater than my BPEL. For some guys it is the other way around.

Initially, I think the difference was about .5”. For a while now, the difference has pretty consistently been .75”.

I tend to measure BPFSL more often than BPEL since it is more convenient to do so. It does seem that I will see a slight gain in BPFSL preceding a gain in BPEL, but that could be because I measure BPFSL more often.

When I was reading the thread about BPFSL vs BPEL, most guys report to have BPFSL longer than BPEL. Very few people are the other way around.

I would like to know an easy gainer (or someone who has gained over 1”) whose BPFSL is less than 1/4” longer than BPEL.

My impression is that folks with increasing difference between BPFSL and BPEL tend to gain faster and more.

It seems to apply in your case.. RedBear52.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

Originally Posted by Laeh
I started PE with almost 1” difference in BPFSL and BPEL. That 1” difference stayed through my first 1” gain of BPEL. As my stretched length increased my erect length would follow closely behind.
After my first 1” gain the next 1/2” erect gain took longer and the gap between stretched length and erect length has decreased. I now have about a 5/8 to 3/4” difference between my stretched and erect lengths and my stretched length has not been growing lately, but neither has my erect length.

The last 1/2” gain that I had was strongly supported with my ADS use following manual stretches to hold it in a stretched state. My opinion is the ADS helped a lot in the BPFSL gain which then translated into BPEL gains.
I have not used my ADS for 8 months and my gains have largely stopped in both measurements. I am experimenting with pumping only right now to see if I gain anything. In a couple months I may go back to my older routine which gave me the last 1/2” gain. Right now I am looking more at girth and am in no rush.

Interesting. So initially your 1” BPFSL and BPEL difference had allowed you to gain 1” relatively easy, and as the difference between BPSFL and BPEL decreased, you also slowed down gain.

In other words, in your case, it seems like BPFSL gain indicates BPEL gain to come (same as RedBear52).

By the way, 1” difference is a lot!! (well, mine is never more than 1/3” difference)


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

When I first started my BPFSL was equal to my BPEL. Now it tends to stay about 3/4 of an inch above. I can tell when BPEL gains are coming because my BPFSL will jump, then a few weeks later BPEL follows right behind it.

For myself BPEL following BPFSL has been 100% persistent.

The only thing that is hard to nail is how much BPEL jumps. Sometimes I can gain 1/4 flaccid stretch and 1/8 erect. Or another time I can gain 1/8 flaccid stretch and 1/4 BPEL. So the numbers is not an exact science but gains in general are always flaccid first then erect for me.


Starting Stats: BPEL = 5.875, EG = 4.375 <> Current Stats: BPEL = 7.25, EG = 4.6

Originally Posted by Penox
When I first started my BPFSL was equal to my BPEL. Now it tends to stay about 3/4 of an inch above. I can tell when BPEL gains are coming because my BPFSL will jump, then a few weeks later BPEL follows right behind it.

For myself BPEL following BPFSL has been 100% persistent.

The only thing that is hard to nail is how much BPEL jumps. Sometimes I can gain 1/4 flaccid stretch and 1/8 erect. Or another time I can gain 1/8 flaccid stretch and 1/4 BPEL. So the numbers is not an exact science but gains in general are always flaccid first then erect for me.

Man, you are the exact PE prototype I was talking about.

Your stats:
BPEL = 5.875, EG = 4.375 <> Current Stats: BPEL = 7.25, EG = 4.6

Your BPFSL increased so much more than BPEL, and hence your gain is amazing.. from 5.875 to 7.25”? WOW… so if your BPFSL is still 3/4” longer than your current BPEL, and if you continue to do length PE, you should be able to gain more.

I wish my BPFSL can increase faster than BPEL.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

I didn’t start measuring BPSFL until I resumed stretching a few weeks ago. It was at about 6.5, where my BPEL was 6.25. When I gained my quarter inch, my BPSFL was up to 6.75. Last night after my stretching session, my BPSFL was up to nearly 7”! My BPEL was about 6.85! I thought it was so cool. It obviously went away but I’m convinced that’s how gains happen, by repeatedly surpassing your current BPSFL.

Originally Posted by UM1991
I didn’t start measuring BPSFL until I resumed stretching a few weeks ago. It was at about 6.5, where my BPEL was 6.25. When I gained my quarter inch, my BPSFL was up to 6.75. Last night after my stretching session, my BPSFL was up to nearly 7”! My BPEL was about 6.85! I thought it was so cool. It obviously went away but I’m convinced that’s how gains happen, by repeatedly surpassing your current BPSFL.

You are saying that in less than a month, you went from 6.5” BPFSL to 7” BPFSL? And BPEL of 6.25” to 6.85”?

I am jealous of your quick gain! wow…

Man.. let me tell you… those who can stretch out easily tend to gain the fastest and the most.

So far my hypothesis is right. BPFSL needs to be stretched out first before BPEL. And those who don’t gain much BPFSL can be “hard gainers”.

I suspect that I have a very tough tunica and a “tense smooth muscle” that don’t respond well to stretching.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

The moderator on Andropenis claims that growth only begins once BPFSL exceeds BPEL. Anything less is relatively useless except to make your unit conditioned to go past BPEL. So you should take a few months to slowly stretch your unit past BPEL and only when BPFSL significantly surpasses BPEL will gains begin.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
The moderator on Andropenis claims that growth only begins once BPFSL exceeds BPEL. Anything less is relatively useless except to make your unit conditioned to go past BPEL. So you should take a few months to slowly stretch your unit past BPEL and only when BPFSL significantly surpasses BPEL will gains begin.

I agree with the claim. It seems like most people (quick and big gainers especially) experience BPFSL gain before BPEL.

My BPFSL is about 1/4” above BPEL. But the ratio hasn’t changed much.

I suspect that I have a very tough tunica/smooth muscle contraction that prevents further stretching.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

My bpel is easily over an inch longer than bpfsl

It’s always baffled me. Bib thinks It’s abnormal


Start 6.5 bpel 5.75 eg Current bpel 7.0 eg 6.75 (7.0eg base) Goal bpel 7.25 eg 7.0 mid shaft

Progress routine and pics/vids

Originally Posted by 17ml
My bpel is easily over an inch longer than bpfsl

It’s always baffled me. Bib thinks It’s abnormal

Seriously? your BPEL is 1” longer than BPFSL? That is out of the norm.

You have gained nicely… especially girth. Do you speculate that is the reason?

Would you say that those with small BPFSL vs BPEL ratio is easier to gain girth?

I wonder what Big Girtha and Ironaddict’s ratio is like.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

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