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BPFSL vs BPEL = gain potential?

Originally Posted by 17ml
My bpel is easily over an inch longer than bpfsl. It’s always baffled me. Bib thinks It’s abnormal

I’m roughly the same way.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
I’m roughly the same way.

Your BPFSL is shorter than BPEL?

How much? Have you seen the difference becomes smaller as you start to gain length?


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(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

My BPSL was about 0.5” shorter than my BPEL, now it’s ~0.75” longer. (Haven’t measured bpel in a while)

Not sure, Lets ask them. Guys?


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Originally Posted by Gyrta
My BPSL was about 0.5” shorter than my BPEL, now it’s ~0.75” longer. (Haven’t measured bpel in a while)

No wonder! You gained more than 1.25” in just 10 months???
You started off with shorter BPFSL.. and now BPFSL is 0.75” longer than BPEL?

Man.. fast gainer. Your BPFSL is a good measurement of BPEL growth to come.


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(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

Just wanted to let you know that I stretched for the first 6 months of my PE career and gained ZERO…at least I’m pretty sure. It wasn’t until I got my technique down that I started seeing shifts in BPSFL.

Originally Posted by kubchaser
Your BPFSL is shorter than BPEL? How much?

Yes, by 3/4” now.

Originally Posted by kubchaser
Have you seen the difference become smaller as you start to gain length?


Yes, the difference has become smaller by ~1/4”-1/2”. I gained 1/4” in the same time period.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by bohm
Yes, by 3/4” now.

Yes, the difference has become smaller by ~1/4”-1/2”. I gained 1/4” in the same time period.

So even in your case, BPFSL is catching up with BPEL. THe difference is shrinking, which also caused you 1/4” gain in BPEL.

Interesting.


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(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

A] you cannot have BPFSL SHORTER than BPEL— if you do then you are mismeasuring.
Think of it like a balloon— you will always be able to stretch it’s length further empty than full.

And
B] IMHO, the difference between the two is primarily an indication of EQ

So
C] our efforts first deform the tissues so D] that we see an increase in BPFSL, which requires E] an increase in EQ to F] flesh out to a greater BPEL for G] more usable cock.


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Originally Posted by androNYC
A] you cannot have BPFSL SHORTER than BPEL— if you do then you are mismeasuring.
Think of it like a balloon— you will always be able to stretch it’s length further empty than full.

And
B] IMHO, the difference between the two is primarily an indication of EQ

So
C] our efforts first deform the tissues so D] that we see an increase in BPFSL, which requires E] an increase in EQ to F] flesh out to a greater BPEL for G] more usable cock.

In regards to A] Guys with BPFSL less than BPEL may have a rather large head engorgement during erection? Head size doesn’t get to be stretched out like tunica (shaft). I am just speculating the difference. It does seem a bit strange.

In regards to B], how do you explain guys with improved EQ (harder erection) but with increasing difference BPFSL > BPEL?


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(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

Originally Posted by kubchaser
In regards to A] Guys with BPFSL less than BPEL may have a rather large head engorgement during erection? Head size doesn’t get to be stretched out like tunica (shaft). I am just speculating the difference. It does seem a bit strange.

In regards to B], how do you explain guys with improved EQ (harder erection) but with increasing difference BPFSL > BPEL?


A] IMO you cannot inflate a balloon more than you can stretch it.

B] BPFSL ‘growth’ is progressing— BPEL/ EQ has to catch up to ‘activating’ the new tissue.

Which is why IMHO there must always be a difference betwixt the two.
And why IMHO the only indicator of actual length increase is BPFSL

IME, proper BPFSL measurement is limited only by the septum length— but then, septum has been my primary length limitation once I’m in PE training mode.


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Originally Posted by androNYC
IMO you cannot inflate a balloon more than you can stretch it.

There might be other factors involved (e.g. neural factors). Go out in the cold and try to stretch your dick.


Starting Size: April, 28, 2010: NBPEL-7" Girth-6" (base, MSG, glans)

Currently: BPEL-8" NBPEL-7.25" Girth-6.25" (base)/6.125" (MSG)/6.125" (glans)

Originally Posted by androNYC
A] IMO you cannot inflate a balloon more than you can stretch it.

B] BPFSL ‘growth’ is progressing— BPEL/ EQ has to catch up to ‘activating’ the new tissue.

Which is why IMHO there must always be a difference betwixt the two.
And why IMHO the only indicator of actual length increase is BPFSL

IME, proper BPFSL measurement is limited only by the septum length— but then, septum has been my primary length limitation once I’m in PE training mode.

BPFSL is basically how far tunica will be stretched out in a flaccid stage. During erection, blood flows in to expand the tissues to grow thicker and longer. So an increase in BPFSL indicates that tunica maybe lengthened due to PE force. And over time, strong EQ (aided by kegeling) can push BPEL longer because the the “balloon” is longer now.

The limiting factor from septum has been discussed.

Are you saying that you haven’t been able to grow length because you suspect the septum is preventing any further stretch?


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

Don’t forget you can in most cases reduce the BPFSL-BPEL-difference with jelqing if you didn’t do it before. I bet those guys whose BPEL increases almost exactly as BPFSL are also jelqing —> TGC theory

Originally Posted by wurst
Don’t forget you can in most cases reduce the BPFSL-BPEL-difference with jelqing if you didn’t do it before. I bet those guys whose BPEL increases almost exactly as BPFSL are also jelqing —> TGC theory

I would tend to agree with you on jelqing, but what about guys who only do manual stretches and hanging? I am sure those who have gained in BPEL have also gained in BPFSL.


Notorious "Hardgainer". No Gain in 4 Years! Check out my "Blog" under Profile.

(starting: Jun 2007) 5.75" BPEL x 5" EG / (Sept 11, 2011) 6.375" BPEL x 5.125" EG / (July 1st, 2014) 6.25" BPEL x 5.125" EG (lost a bit of size)

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