Bleeding again.

So as I say I think I could be training too much as my flaccid hang looks smaller and my morning woods aren’t as good as they used to when I was doing ullis jelqs and stretches and gained o.5 inches.

Yesterday I took a full day off, something I hadn’t done in long time and today I’ve stretch half a d hour first and 20 min at night. I didn’t feel any kind of soreness or fatigue even though at times I was pulling very hard..

After that, in my jelqing session my dick hole bled a little, I think something bursted nearby the glans hole..

Could that be due to too much stretching? My jelqing sessions aren’t that hard.. From 5 to 15 min and 5 or 6 times a week.

Last two weeks it bled to and when I was doing ullis in my beginnings do it did.

I think a that (bleeding, negative PI) means I got to take this weekend off at least right?

I can only speak from the experience of a hanger. If a hanger bleeds like you described, they are hanging with to much internal blood pressure. Basically with a blood plug, I think they call it.

How aggressive are your jelqs? Are you clamping off a lot of blood and really engorging your glans. If you are doing this I bet that is the problem.

Maybe lighten up on the pressure of your jelqs.

You are jelqing with an OK grip, aren’t you?

Yes.
Last time I bled it was like that too 2 or 3 weeks ago jelqing, and the other was doing ullis like 7 months ago when I begun PE

The same way you describe with hanging, can one cause bleed from stretching?

My dick feels tired but it is also because my timetable is harder now. How much off time should I take?

Just from my experience and what I have read, they only bleed where you described due to a high amount of pressure. It is why we squeeze out the blood in the glans during the attachment phase. This is with a compression hanger. Regretfully, that is the exact opposite of what you are trying to do with a jelq.

I have never bled from hanging. However, if I was to bleed from the stretch it would probably be at the base of the shaft by causing a skin tear. It is just about where the tension is applied.

Only you can decide how much time to take off.

If it is just a skin tear then I imagine a couple days would be fine. However, you are obviuosly prone to this type of injury.

It will happen again unless you lower the pressure you are applying in these type of exercises. Just my opinion

So I just saw your post on gains stopping and decon. I am guessing that you decided to ratchet up your routine to try to force some gains.

No form of PE is perfect. In my opinion the weakness of manual exercises is not knowing the amount of stresses that you are putting on your penis.

Out of frustration to gain you could have increased the pressure by 50% that you are applying in your jelq and you have no way of guaging that.

If you where pumping, I doubt you would increase the HG level by 50% if you aren’t gaining.

In some ways I think manual stretching requires a higher level of discipline for the guys that are over eager.

There have been guys that have been doing PE for many years. I think you might have to accept the reality that you got your early noobie gains and now you are in this for the long haul.

You can increase a manual routine by adding time and sets or by slowly increasing pressure applied. But my guess is you went nuclear and decided to hit your penis with everything that you have. Probably increasing sets, pressure/tension, maybe even adding some new exercises just to really destroy your penis and get those gains.

Try to remember you only have one penis.

Thanks wise BH. Do you think if one stretches too hard he will never gain.

From bibs advise, you have to reach fatigue and stick to it as long as it doesn’t hurt. Sometimes I get soreness/fatigue. But sometimes I can pull as hard as I want and feel nothing.. Why is that?

You are absolutely right about your guess in me.

Hanging / extender are the best as they arexeasy to increase and quantify. Not everyone has that privacy. Perhaps I should leave all PE for a time where I get privacy..

Lastly I want to add that lig gains are impossible at least for me. My half inch has come from ullis and jelqing the expansion ullis give. So tunica gains .

I really don’t know. But I do know that you can’t stretch or gain if you injure yourself

I don’t know if I ever felt fatigue when I stretched. I really don’t remember but I don’t think I did.

Hanging and stretching are similar but not the same.

Many times I don’t feel fatigue until the end of my second or third set and sometimes not at all. So we are talking 35 to close to 60 minutes before I fatigue. If I go a week without fatigue in the first 2 sets then I add weight. I can be very precise like that with hanging.

I think you need to stop focusing on what hangers feel and instead focus on what stretchers feel. If ancient cavemen did PE I am sure they started stretching with their hands before they attached boulders to their penis.

I like fatigue because it lets me feel that I am pushing the edge without falling over. However, I have absolutely gained without fatigue. I am sure many people have.

We spend thousands and thousands of posts on this forum trying to find out the mechanism of gains and how they are happening. We could all be wrong about where the gains are coming from. However, we are right in what methods are causing gains. You don’t need to know how an internal combustion engine works to drive a car. You just know that you turn it on, put it in drive, put the foot on the gas pedal.

I will tell you that you won’t gain if you aren’t doing PE. If you have an hour to do manual stretches then you just need to maximize that time. Make it as effecient as possible.

Yes the gains might not be as fast as someone putting in 3 hours but you need to think towards the long run.

I say this with the idea that you don’t injure yourself. You need to listen to what your body is telling you.

I am also not saying don’t do a decon break. I just feel that it should be your last resort.

Now if your EQ is turning to shit and you are getting other negative feedback then you might need to adjust your time on, time off schedule.

Try to understand with Bib and compression hanging we aren’t pursuing girth work. Most increases in internal pressure are because of poor technique. We do light jelqing. So we could hang 20 hours a week and never miss a day. That is okay for us.

But you are using different mechanisms. You might need to take rest days. That is about you listening to your body.