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Been nearly 3 months - no trace of gains

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Been nearly 3 months - no trace of gains

Good evening

First of all I know the keywords for PE are discipline, patience and dedication, much like bodybuilding. But but but

I’ve been PEing for almost 3 months now, with a modified version of the newbie routine, as I like to call it. But there’s no trace of any gains anywhere :( .
I know people have waited a lot longer than this and still got no gains, but in order to keep my motivation I have to be sure what I am doing is right.

Therefor posting my routine and hoping to get some constructive criticism, or even better - reasoning behind no gains.

Warmup for about 2 min with a warm cloth.
Manual stretching up, down, right and left. 1 min each way, 3 rounds in total (1Rep3sets for each direction).
I slowly started to push the jelq numbers up after I started to PE currently I do 300 dry jelqs.
Trying to keep erection level at 50-70%, 3-4 seconds for each jelq.
Tried wet jelq, didn’t really do the trick for me, it was too messy in my opinion I am uncut, so the dry jelqs do it for me.

I usually have a hard time keeping my erection down like I had in the beginning. I asked on the forums back then, and some said it would go away after some time, but it is still here!
I always do anything PE related while laying down. Tried to stand up and sit on chair/bed but I feel I can get a better grip the other way.

The frustrated one.

What’s the frequency of your session? Do you monitor BPFSL and girth at three points of the shaft?

5 days on weekend off. No I don’t.

Well start monitoring that, otherwise you could not be aware of some gains that are actually there. I think you should jelq every other day or 2on/1off. I would add a couple of sets of A stretches, also; Not cosmic changes or fancy advices, I know, but I think it is better to do little changes and have patience.

Are you doing the motions or are you creating the appropriate stressin your penis from each of the exercises:

- Are you effectively warming up or is the “cloth” losing heat? A rice sock may hold more heat longer and 5-10 minutes of warming may be better than 2.

- Are you stretching hard enough that you can really feel it? Stretching kills my EQ immediately after training session.

- Are you jelqing such that you can see and feel the swelling in your penis as you squeeze the blood up?

You may be doing everything right in which case you can take the “glass half full” attitude that you’ve completed your newbie conditioning. Personally, I had my best stretching results with a-stretches and bundled a-stretches. Start slow if you’re going to add these. I’ve been much more girth focused so added in squeezes then supra slammers after my conditioning phase. Bends - flaccid and erect at different times - have also contributed to my girth gains. Good luck.


11/20/2011: BPEL: 6", MEG: 4.75" (goal BPEL: ~7", MEG: 5.25")

5/9/12: BPEL: 6.5", MEG 5" (goal BPEL: 7.25", MEG: 5.5")

3/5/13: BPEL: 6.875", MEG 5 5" (max goal BPEL: 7.5", MEG: 5.75")

Op ur not alone. I did the noob routine for two months with no gains.


Last edited by squatsandoats : 05-28-2013 at .

I’m sorry, I can imagine you’re frustrated, that sucks. I had the erection problem too in the beginning, it is just a matter of training your dick that its not play time its work time. I have the opposite problem, I’m cut and cannot do the dry jelq, its very uncomfortable to me. I’d say to give the wet jelq another shot, and do it sitting up. Use Palmers cocoa butter in the jar, sometimes the lube makes all the difference. You may just have a tough dick, that’s not always a bad thing though lol. Also the rice sock does work very well for a warm up and you can add a few minutes to the warm up with it. I cant say that everyone will get much gains through just jelqing, I got my first ones through an extender worn over months. Tried hanging later and got nothing, go figure..

Originally Posted by jd10021
Are you doing the motions or are you creating the appropriate stressin your penis from each of the exercises:

- Are you effectively warming up or is the “cloth” losing heat? A rice sock may hold more heat longer and 5-10 minutes of warming may be better than 2.

- Are you stretching hard enough that you can really feel it? Stretching kills my EQ immediately after training session.

- Are you jelqing such that you can see and feel the swelling in your penis as you squeeze the blood up?

You may be doing everything right in which case you can take the “glass half full” attitude that you’ve completed your newbie conditioning. Personally, I had my best stretching results with a-stretches and bundled a-stretches. Start slow if you’re going to add these. I’ve been much more girth focused so added in squeezes then supra slammers after my conditioning phase. Bends - flaccid and erect at different times - have also contributed to my girth gains. Good luck.

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First of all thanks for all the fast replies guys.

Havent seen rice socks around here, but I will try to look more for it then.

When will one say that the penis is appropriate warm?

I believe so, my penis is usually completely flaccid when doing manual stretches, but it tries to shrink even more, if that makes any sense. I pull it so hard in each direction that it almost hurts my skin at the rod.

Yes, all the way down, all the way up. I can feel the blood swelling in my penis head, no doubt.

I will look into it. I’m most interested in girth as well. Length could be nice too though.

I will start by saying 300 jelqs is a lot. Youve been doing this routine for 3 months now so you might as well try something a little different. If you have absolutely no gains maybe you are a less is more gainer because the amounts you described are not small. I would suggest something like this which I say you should start the monday after your next weekend break :

-warm up, instead of a cloth use a rice sock(granting you can find one) or use a glass of water as hot as your dick can handle(works best for me), even beginning the warm up with somewhat warmer, then warmer again, then warmer still over the course of five minutes, in my experience sufficiently warmed up is reached when holding your dick it is warm/even hot to the touch on your hands
-Begin your stretching 30 second stretches straight out 3 times, when you do these you dont want to feel it in your skin, you want to feel it in the ligaments attaching your dick to your body, the stretch feeling youre looking for is in the actual structures inside the penis
-Begin your jelqing, 80 reps at most, with each stroke focus on keeping your grip firm completely from the base all the way to the glands, feel the blood filling up your dick, close your eyes and feel your dick filling to more than its maximum capacity, with every single stroke, 4 seconds each, at the beginning of each stroke be sure to kegel in blood and make sure you feel it and your dick can feel it

After this let your dick go flaccid, look at it. It should be at least slightly bigger your normal flaccid at this point. Throughout the rest of the day get a few erections and see how they feel. Is your dick sore? Does it feel like it has been “worked”? Is it looking or feeling even the slightest bit fuller than before your routine? When you wake up the next morning do you have morning wood? Is it stronger? Meaner? These things for me are good indicators that what I am doing is right.

If your dick the next morning is still sore then DO NOT perform the routine again that day. If it is not sore then by all means do the routine again, ask the same questions. You obviously want answers like “yes it feels fuller” “yes my erections are strong” “and no my dick is not sore or weak this morning”. Make sure that each day you listen to your body to tell you what to do.

I suggest reading the threads written by TheGreatDivider, they are full of good ideas that hopefully will help you.

Good luck man and be very careful.

Originally Posted by jhammer71113
I will start by saying 300 jelqs is a lot. You’ve been doing this routine for 3 months now so you might as well try something a little different. If you have absolutely no gains maybe you are a less is more gainer because the amounts you described are not small. I would suggest something like this which I say you should start the monday after your next weekend break :

-Warm up, instead of a cloth use a rice sock(granting you can find one) or use a glass of water as hot as your dick can handle(works best for me), even beginning the warm up with somewhat warmer, then warmer again, then warmer still over the course of five minutes, in my experience sufficiently warmed up is reached when holding your dick it is warm/even hot to the touch on your hands
-Begin your stretching 30 second stretches straight out 3 times, when you do these you don’t want to feel it in your skin, you want to feel it in the ligaments attaching your dick to your body, the stretch feeling you’re looking for is in the actual structures inside the penis
-Begin your jelqing, 80 reps at most, with each stroke focus on keeping your grip firm completely from the base all the way to the glands, feel the blood filling up your dick, close your eyes and feel your dick filling to more than its maximum capacity, with every single stroke, 4 seconds each, at the beginning of each stroke be sure to kegel in blood and make sure you feel it and your dick can feel it

After this let your dick go flaccid, look at it. It should be at least slightly bigger your normal flaccid at this point. Throughout the rest of the day get a few erections and see how they feel. Is your dick sore? Does it feel like it has been “worked”? Is it looking or feeling even the slightest bit fuller than before your routine? When you wake up the next morning do you have morning wood? Is it stronger? Meaner? These things for me are good indicators that what I am doing is right.

If your dick the next morning is still sore then DO NOT perform the routine again that day. If it is not sore then by all means do the routine again, ask the same questions. You obviously want answers like “yes it feels fuller” “yes my erections are strong” “and no my dick is not sore or weak this morning”. Make sure that each day you listen to your body to tell you what to do.

I suggest reading the threads written by TheGreatDivider, they are full of good ideas that hopefully will help you.

Good luck man and be very careful.

Thanks for the detailed advice, much appreciated. There’s some things I’d like to ask though.

30 sec (each direction I guess) x 3 sets as well as 80 reps of jelqing, isn’t it a little to small for a workout? Depends on how many sets of 80 reps I should do ofc.
I usually do PE in the evening just before I go to sleep and I’m afraid I won’t have time to do it in the mornings.
What should the frequency of this workout be? 2on/1off?

Will look into that. Thanks again.

Im not exactly trying to give you a specific routine to stick with. I more aimed towards giving you an idea of seeing how you literally respond to PE. I advocate less is more. It works for me and it works for others. The best part about it is, if you are not a “less is more gainer” then you can see that by gradually ramping the routine up more and more until you find the threshold of work you need for gains. The most important part about this is learning how your dick is going to respond to PE.

When I say 3 30 seconds stretching I mean only that, 3 straight out 30 seconds each. No more, no other directions just that. And when I say 80 reps, I mean 80 reps total. It is extremely important that you focus on your form in doing each individual jelq. You can do 1000 jelqs with weak form and have no effect at all whereas you could do 50 jelqs perfect in form and see some results.

I want to emphasize the importance of questioning how you feel after the workout. If your dick feels sore, that is good, you know youve done something. If it doesnt then right there you know that you probably need to change something a bit(whether that is jelqing at 60 percent instead of 50 percent or if its adding 20 more jelqs to your routine is up to you). If your dick feels fuller and hangs fuller all day after the workout then that is also a good sign. Go into the search engine and look up the physiological indicators of PE. There are both good and bad but they are a great guide to see what is working for you and what isnt.

So once again what I am saying you should do is essentially as little is possible and then check your condition afterwards. You need to find the right level of exercises to have an effect on you because apparently what you have been doing hasnt been working. Go into the pe forum and read the thread entitled “best dam PE advice period”. It will be a good read and outlined in there are the aspects which hopefully are written more clearly there for you to understand.

I also think 300 of 3-4 second jelqs is simply too much I was gaining at 5 min warm-up, 4 minutes stretching, 150 jelgs and 5 minutes orange bends on 2 on 1 off routine.

I know everybody is different but if high volume doesn’t work for You should try the less is more approach.

If You are not in a hurry I would take a 3-4 week break because you might have strengthtened your tunica with that intensity.

If you haven’t read this and listen to your body. Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth!

I hope You’ll make all kinds of gains.


Start: 8 BPEL- 7.5 NBPEL - 5.5 midEG

Current: 8.6 BPEL - 8 NBPEL - 5.8 midEG

I wish You all kinds of gains!


Last edited by MrJacobo : 05-28-2013 at .

I will try it from Monday on guys thanks for all your effort! This is indeed one of the most helpful forums I’ve ever seen!

Btw I have looked a little bit around for a rice sock, but can’t find one. Should I make one myself or isn’t it so important?

I made one myself. Works like a charm!

I forgot to write about the rice sock.

I think 99% of us made our rice socks.

Step 1 take a sock.
Step 2 put the rice in the sock. (uncooked lol my friend made one with cooked rice)
Step 3 tie the sock.

And that’s the way you do it. ;)


Start: 8 BPEL- 7.5 NBPEL - 5.5 midEG

Current: 8.6 BPEL - 8 NBPEL - 5.8 midEG

I wish You all kinds of gains!

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