Are stretch gains real?

I’ve been reading lately about penis lengthening surgery. I have no desire of any form to get it I was more just interested in the subject.

It says that one of the most common methods to increase the length of a penis is to snip (but not cut) the ligaments. In my mind this is a just a super fast way and far more dangerous way of doing what we PE’ers do every day.

The thing is a lot of websites say this doesn’t actually increase your penis size it just makes it hang lower, and when you get an erection your penis will be as long/short as it was before and you’ll have the added problem of a penis with no support.

Doesn’t this directly correlate to manual stretching?

Also I’m wondering if any one of the veteran PE’ers here have noticed this loss of support?

I am not really a veteran, been doing PE for 15 months, but I have worked a lot with length gains and stretching. My gains are real and in the erect state. But it was hard work and took about 1 year before I got 1” gain. I know about the surgery method and it is correct as you say, you remove the support in the flaccid state and the purpose is for better confidence in public gyms, showers etc.

Thanks for the quick reply. One thing I am still wondering is pre-PE when I got an erection if I held it perpendicular to my body it would noticeably pull up towards my belly button. Will streaching the ligaments affect that at all?

For me, my erection position has changed slightly to point a bit more forward.

The difference is, surgery is destructive while PE is constructive. Stretching the ligaments also strengthens them. I think most long term PE-ers will tell you that their erections pull/point up just as much or more than before they started - nothing to worry about there.

Alright thanks for the help