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Any chance of satisfying with only 4.5 girth

I agree with all the comments on this thread. 70% of men are average, 15% below & 15% above average. It’s only common sense that 6 Billion women across the world are having orgasms, thus they’re obviously not getting them from the top 15% that are above average. And as noted, lesbians can care less whether their partner has a dick. :)

So why on earth are we all on this site, talking & doing PE? HA HA HA!!!

Originally Posted by charlie dog
I agree with all the comments on this thread. 70% of men are average, 15% below & 15% above average. It’s only common sense that 6 Billion women across the world are having orgasms, thus they’re obviously not getting them from the top 15% that are above average. And as noted, lesbians can care less whether their partner has a dick. :)

So why on earth are we all on this site, talking & doing PE? HA HA HA!!!

Because men like to use a big dick?

We do it for ourselves! :) At least I hope most of the guys here does it for themselves.

I would agree that we do it for ourselves …

I understood this intellectually when I started, but truth be told, I was still fanticizing about the reaction from my wife as my dick grew.

As I have continued with PE and continue to see results, I think that I have evolved to a better (more healthy) sort of motivation.

My suspicion is that that sort of evolution is not uncommon among the thunder’s membership


Starting (10 / 2011): 6.50 BPEL, 5.50 MEG

Current: 7.50 BPEL, 6.00 MEG

Goal: 8.50 BPEL 6.50 MEG

I will be forthright and say that any girth under approximately 5.25” is not going to be as satisfying - given that all other things are equal (sexual technique, the woman’s perception of you, etc.) - as a size larger than 5.25”. A lack of criticism of one’s diminutive size could be a result of the women not wanting to cause offense. Now, 5.25” should be interpreted here as marginally large and not as some ideal size. For ideal, I would say somewhere in the proximity of 7” in girth as an ideal (though presumably quixotic for some of you) goal to set for oneself.. As a forewarning, this is solely one man’s opinion that happens to be contrary to almost every other [rather saccharine] post in this thread of almost four pages in length, so attacking my opinion would be unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Praseo
I will be forthright and say that any girth under approximately 5.25” is not going to be as satisfying - given that all other things are equal (sexual technique, the woman’s perception of you, etc.) - as a size larger than 5.25”. A lack of criticism of one’s diminutive size could be a result of the women not wanting to cause offense. Now, 5.25” should be interpreted here as marginally large and not as some ideal size. For ideal, I would say somewhere in the proximity of 7” in girth as an ideal (though presumably quixotic for some of you) goal to set for oneself.. As a forewarning, this is solely one man’s opinion that happens to be contrary to almost every other [rather saccharine] post in this thread of almost four pages in length, so attacking my opinion would be unnecessary.

I regret even answering at this stuff..lol edited and deleted


It's a competitive world

Everything counts in large amounts

Originally Posted by MarkPe
7” ? Is LOL considered an attack?

It depends on what you mean by “LOL”. A laugh can have many connotations.

But I think you’re implying that 7” circumference is ridiculous. If so, I think that’s either because you’re misinformed or malcontent. Misinformed because you either a) hold the misapprehension that such a size is unattainable or b) that it is excessive.

Malcontent because you couldn’t reach such a size yourself, so you feel the need to mock those who could.

Originally Posted by Praseo
I will be forthright and say that any girth under approximately 5.25” is not going to be as satisfying - given that all other things are equal (sexual technique, the woman’s perception of you, etc.) - as a size larger than 5.25”. A lack of criticism of one’s diminutive size could be a result of the women not wanting to cause offense. Now, 5.25” should be interpreted here as marginally large and not as some ideal size. For ideal, I would say somewhere in the proximity of 7” in girth as an ideal (though presumably quixotic for some of you) goal to set for oneself.. As a forewarning, this is solely one man’s opinion that happens to be contrary to almost every other [rather saccharine] post in this thread of almost four pages in length, so attacking my opinion would be unnecessary.


This is rather presumptuous to the notion that more girth is the magic ingredient to satisfying a woman. (Which it is not)

But like you said, if you forget about all the other things that actually contribute to satisfying a woman, and compare only girth, more girth would seem to equal more satisfaction. :rolleyes:


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Ahha no. The optimal girth is 20”. If one doesn’t believe this then he is malcontent or envious, of course.

Originally Posted by cantlook
This is rather presumptuous to the notion that more girth is the magic ingredient to satisfying a woman. (Which it is not)

But like you said, if you forget about all the other things that actually contribute to satisfying a woman, and compare only girth, more girth would seem to equal more satisfaction. :rolleyes:

My opinion is derived from experience. I started PE with a circumference of 5.75” (6” on a good day). I receive many positive comments on my size; women and men affirmed through their words that I had a perfect girth, yet a nagging feeling of inadequacy (mostly brought about by excessive porn consumption) in my head lead me to PE. After extensively reading the abundance of very useful information on this site and others, I arrived at the realization that gaining 1.25” in circumference wasn’t as toilsome and time intensive as my preconceptions first lead me to believe.

As I gained girth, I also gained more positive comments - many from the same individuals who had previously deluded me into thinking my natural size was perfect. Since the word “perfect” is superlative, there’s no word that transcends its denotation. Something either is perfect or it is not perfect or it is somewhere on a spectrum of perfect. “More perfect” is like “more best”; both would make no since, which lead me to believe that these individuals were simply prevaricators.

Now that I’m only about 0.6-7” away from my goal (after a desultory and intermittent 3 years of PE because of having more enjoyable activities to partake in, namely studying languages, science, mathematics, etc.), I still receive the same comments, to paraphrase: “It’s the perfect size”, “I love it”, etc.

Are they lying, too? The only way to establish the veracity of their statements is to continue PE until the “perfect” comments reach a verifiable apex. I’ve realized through mulling the issue over in my mind is that the Rubicon, whereafter crossed negative comments become more common than positive ones, is at approximately 7” in circumference.

Originally Posted by marinera
Ahha no. The optimal girth is 20”. If one doesn’t believe this then he is malcontent or envious, of course.

I would have thought sarcasm would be beneath you, marinera.

Sometimes sarcasm is useful, helps cutting a long post. But if you want the long version, here you are:
I think this post
Praseo - Any chance of satisfying with only 4.5 girth

has too much of a personal taste. If one doesn’t share your same opinion, than he is malcontent because he’ll never achieve that size -this is how that sounds. It isn’t much different than saying ‘You have a small dick’.

Beside that, I think there isn’t any ‘ideal size’; over-generalizating a bit, basing on my direct experience, I’d say over 6” is too much to be pleasurabe for most of women who didn’t give birth. For mums, 6” is about perfect; some of the women who gave birth can take about any girth without much trouble. I know a good number of women who, after giving birth, can cum only through anal intercourse.

But the foremost point I’d like to underline, is that this thread is not about ‘the ideal size’. It is a different topic. It is about a young guy who wonders if 4.5” can be enough to give orgam to a girl and is scared. This is the question. Many have answered ‘It is more than enough, since a woman can come even with fingers.’. I agree. Now, start saying ‘7” is the ideal size for me’, it is pushing the thread off topic and, at the same time, in this context, can only put more anxiety on the OP.

I’m sure you get what I mean Praseo, I see you are a sharp guy.

Originally Posted by Praseo
It depends on what you mean by “LOL”. A laugh can have many connotations.

But I think you’re implying that 7” circumference is ridiculous. If so, I think that’s either because you’re misinformed or malcontent. Misinformed because you either a) hold the misapprehension that such a size is unattainable or b) that it is excessive.

Malcontent because you couldn’t reach such a size yourself, so you feel the need to mock those who could.


Well since you decided to answer my post even though I deleted it, now I have to reply:
You are implying a lot of stuff, it’s just your opinion, you are not an expert in female sexuality even though some woman and a few friends told you differently, get a grip, don’t take yourself so seriously.
What made me lol was your preventive “don’t attack me”. You are well aware that your opinion is …let’s just say unpopular to keep it civil, but who dares to lol at your statement is just a small girth envious dude. Lol again!


It's a competitive world

Everything counts in large amounts

Ok let’s get along now.

Praseo Congrats on your gains! You’ve worked very hard and it has paid off.

However, that doesn’t give you the right to

- insinuate that others in this thread are liars when they say they satisfy their lovers
- Call other members “diminutive” when they are solidly within average range. This points to an unrealistic understanding of real world penis size.
- Insult those who have lesser stats than you as “malcontents” or filled with envy. Not every guy wants or practically needs the same thing that you want.
- Definitively assert that 7MSEG is the “ideal” size for all women (Google my husband boyfriends penis is too large for me)

That’s really not how we treat each other here at Thunders.

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But now to a bigger issue. I am concerned that you are being driven by BDD, and that is a tough situation to be in. We all have a little bit of that. But you may have a lot of it.

In one of your posts you wrote:

Originally Posted by Praseo
Are they lying, too? The only way to establish the veracity of their statements is to continue PE until the “perfect” comments reach a verifiable apex. I’ve realized through mulling the issue over in my mind is that the Rubicon, whereafter crossed negative comments become more common than positive ones, is at approximately 7” in circumference.

Once you stop at 7MSEG, maybe they will still be lying? It is possible 8” would be better. Or maybe 9”?

At what girth will you really be satisfied that your penis is perfect?

I am not trying to be sarcastic here. I am trying to point out that you may be driven to a large degree by Body Dysmorphic Disorder. All of us guys here have a bit of BDD about our penises. So please take it in the spirit that it is intended. Advice to a thunders brother.

I am sure you are familiar with the concept of BDD, but here’s a quick summary for those reading the thread who may not be. This is from the Mayo Clinic:

Body dysmorphic disorder
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bo…isorder/DS00559

Originally Posted by Mayo Clinic
Body dysmorphic disorder is a type of chronic mental illness in which you can’t stop thinking about a flaw with your appearance — a flaw that is either minor or imagined. But to you, your appearance seems so shameful that you don’t want to be seen by anyone. Body dysmorphic disorder has sometimes been called “imagined ugliness.”

When you have body dysmorphic disorder, you intensely obsess over your appearance and body image, often for many hours a day. You may seek out numerous cosmetic procedures to try to “fix” your perceived flaws, but never will be satisfied. Body dysmorphic disorder is also known as dysmorphophobia, the fear of having a deformity.

<SNIP>

You may obsess over any part of your body, but common features people may obsess about include:

Nose
Hair
Skin
Complexion
Wrinkles
Acne and blemishes
Baldness
Breast size
Muscle size
Genitalia

The body feature you focus on may change over time. You may be so convinced about your perceived flaws that you become delusional, imagining something about your body that’s not true, no matter how much someone tries to convince you otherwise.

More at the link. Bohm has also put together some articles specifically about Penis Body Dysmorphic Disorder here:

Small penis (Body Dysmorphic) disorder

I am not a psychiatrist, however there are many statements in your post that indicate that you may be saddled with a fair amount of Penis BDD:

- you talk about your nagging feeling of anxiety coming from naive viewing of pornography
- you felt that people were deluding you when they told you that you had a big dick
- as you grew, you felt people were being even more deceptive to you about your flawed penis

You started PE with an objectively very large penis. You have made it even larger with hard work and dedication. Again I congratulate you. It would be much better for you in the long run if you could just come to grips with this: You have a very very very large penis.

You need to accept this in your head, realize it, and own it. It doesn’t matter what people say or what they don’t say.

Believe it.

The size of your penis is not the problem. Your penis is fine. And it is very very large.

The concern about getting external approval is dragging you down. Because in your mind, you will always think they are lying.

Believe in yourself.


Last edited by sta-kool : 03-28-2012 at .
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