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Hi. I have to be very careful about what exercises I do for PE as I have Psoriasis, which while is not usually on my penis can manifest itself there with any injury or trauma to the area. This hampers my PE quite a bit as I often have to take a week or more off after only a few days PE for recovery. This is why I had to give up dry jelqs and even wet jelqs.

The only thing that does not seem to aggravate the Psoriasis attack is using my Vac Extender as an ADS which I can wear for about six to eight hours a day without too much problem.

Mu question is: Am I going to get any gains like this? I have been PE ing on and off for about 2 years with no ruler gains (nothing definite enough to really celebrate - now I BPFS as I find that there is less room for discrepancies in measuring), though not surprising after taking two whole summers off and not really having a routine that I can stick to without injury.

I would like to hear from anyone making gains with ADS and any advice on ways to maximise what I am doing which is basically one day left stretch around the waist and the next right stretch around the waist for five days and then two days off. I see from another thread that I should try using a wristband after PE (which I can do).

Any advice will be very welcome as I really want to make gains soon! :-)

Stats ATM 168mm BPFS (6.6”) 127mm EG (5”). I don’t want to mention flaccid :-)

Thanks

Regg.

I also have Psoriasis and used to get severe outbreaks of it on Mr. Happy.

It sucks.

There are prescription strength creams of 2.5% Hydro-cortisone that can be very helpful if your outbreaks are severe. I used to use jojoba oil mixed with a dab of over-the-counter Hydro-cortisone (1%) cream for jelqing. It worked well and helped to kill two birds with one stone. I rarely get outbreaks on Mr. Happy any more.

I still am watchful of potential outbreaks and if I see the beginning signs I immediately hit it with the over the counter stuff. I have it where it’s pretty manageable now.

Yes, you can indeed gains using an extender only. As with any PE there are to golden rules: patience, and consistency. The “off and on” nature of your PE career is doubtless contributing to your lack of progress.

One thing to watch out for with Psoriasis is Arginine. Arginine supplements or even just food that’s high in Arginine (certain nuts, etc.) will aggravate your condition.

I will say that The Newbie Routine, followed consistently, is what gave me my best gains. I would see if you can’t use the jojoba oil mixed with Hydro-cortisone cream to help you accomplish it. That way you are daily putting medication on the rough spot and getting your PE done at the same time.

Obviously if the skin is so cracked that it’s bleeding you don’t do PE, but if it’s just the rough itchy patches this strategy has been very helpful to me. It might be worth giving it a shot for a couple of weeks.


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Last edited by Mr. Happy : 01-16-2008 at .

I think Mr. Happy has covered most points. I will point out that corticosteroids are typically absorbed extrememly easily by genitalia: the penis absorbs them at approximately 300 times the rate of the palms of the hands, for example. Most advice leaflets with the products state not to use them on the genitals at all.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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I have used hydrocortizone on my pee pee. What do you think the risk is?


Horny Bastard

My doctor recommended that I use the Hydro-cortisone only during the outbreaks and then for three days afterward, at which point, if there were no symptoms, I was to stop.

At those times I jelqed with only the jojoba.

I very rarely get outbreaks on Mr. Happy anymore.

I have issues with my nails, ears, and one patch on my left hand that is extremely stubborn and resistant to treatment; but Mr. Happy cleared right up.

One risk is that it weakens the skin, but I found that not to be a serious issue for me. The healing the Hydro-cortisone promoted far outweighed the risk and, honestly, I didn’t see any change other than clearing of the inflammation.


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There is a higher risk of localised side effects which are common to many corticosteroids: skin thinning, increased chance of damage and bruising of the skin, increased susceptibility to infections, enlarged blood vessels etc. Read any leaflets that come with the product. They should detail the most likely side effects.

Naturally the chance of side effects increases with the strength of the preparation, frequency and quantity of application.

In very large doses, there is possibility of Cushing’s Syndrome and adrenal gland suppression, although I doubt the penis would have a great enough surface area to absorb that much, even after a few years at Thunder’s!


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Thanks Firegoat, that’s something to keep in mind.


Horny Bastard

It’s also worth bearing in mind that using corticosteroids in combination with other products will affect their absorbancy. Some products will help carry the steroids into the skin. Some will act as barriers to absorption. It would be worth taking a look at the properties of anything else being used, such as Jojoba, to see what effects may be produced.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
I also have Psoriasis and used to get severe outbreaks of it on Mr. Happy.

It sucks.

There are prescription strength creams of 2.5% Hydro-cortisone that can be very helpful if your outbreaks are severe. I used to use jojoba oil mixed with a dab of over-the-counter Hydro-cortisone (1%) cream for jelqing. It worked well and helped to kill two birds with one stone. I rarely get outbreaks on Mr. Happy any more.

I still am watchful of potential outbreaks and if I see the beginning signs I immediately hit it with the over the counter stuff. I have it where it’s pretty manageable now.

Yes, you can indeed gains using an extender only. As with any PE there are to golden rules: patience, and consistency. The “off and on” nature of your PE career is doubtless contributing to your lack of progress.

One thing to watch out for with Psoriasis is Arginine. Arginine supplements or even just food that’s high in Arginine (certain nuts, etc.) will aggravate your condition.

I will say that The Newbie Routine, followed consistently, is what gave me my best gains. I would see if you can’t use the jojoba oil mixed with Hydro-cortisone cream to help you accomplish it. That way you are daily putting medication on the rough spot and getting your PE done at the same time.

Obviously if the skin is so cracked that it’s bleeding you don’t do PE, but if it’s just the rough itchy patches this strategy has been very helpful to me. It might be worth giving it a shot for a couple of weeks.

Hi All.

Thanks for your reply Mr Happy.

Unfortunately, steroidal cream is not an option for me except in really dire circumstances. I have had Ps (psoriasis) since I was about 14 (now I’m 40) and have used far too much Hydro-cortisone products over the years. At some points in my life I have had like 60 percent Ps coverage over my whole body. As a result of overuse of Hydro-cortisone’s I have started to suffer with thinning skin (as firegoat mentions) in certain places. Also, he’s correct, Hydro-cortisone’s should not be used on genitalia unless so prescribed and never for long periods (I wish my GP’s had stressed that when they kept giving repeat prescriptions year after year).

So, any sign of Ps on my penis and I have to stop PE until it dies down or it gets so aggravated and sore that is impossible to continue anyway.

So, back the the PE that I can do. :-)

Is my routine of 5 on 2 off (2 off is necessary after 5 on for my circumstances) for 5 to 8 hours per day a good enough routine to see some gains?

Is there anything else that I can do that will maximise the PE that I can safely do?

Thanks all,

Regg

I’ll have to let someone else who has used a Vac Extender as an ADS answer that more definitely, but I have seen many guys post who have used ADS almost exclusively for less time and who have still gained.

Uli’s, done gently, until your penis gets used to the pressure, may be worth trying as they don’t create much friction, but do create internal pressure.

If you can use the ADS for length and Uli’s for girth, it would make a good combination.


Heat makes the difference between gaining quickly or slowly for some guys, or between gaining slowly instead of not at all for others. And the ideal penis size is 7.6" BPEL x 5.6" Mid Girth.

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I just wonder whether Povidine iodine AKA Betadine would be effective on Psoriasis
It has some extraordinary powers such as controlling - bacteria, fungi, viruses, protozoa and bacterial spores.

Whether these are part of the make-up of anti-psoriasis effects I don’t know. It has a fairly healthy list of anti-s though. So might have some benificial effect.


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