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Originally Posted by Formula1
I’m taking 3000mg a day first thing in the morning. With Vitamin C although I take that later in the day. Do not take the B6 though.

I’ve read that the B6 is important; I read drinking juice helps absorption too.


Started: Bpel 7 mseg 4.5

Current: Bpel 7.5 mseg 4.75

Goal: at least 8.5X6.5

Hey big, I use Tongkat Ali to boost my libido. The stuff works for a lot of us. It works by raising your testosterone levels. There is a lot of information on it on the web. The pure 50 to 1 extract works best for me. It is expensive and should be cycled for safety. When I am on the stuff, you could bust open my head and little “pussies” would fly every where.

I just ordered some tyrosine powder from iherb.com. I also tried alot of stuff for libido mostly cause I overtrain with the weights like tribulus, etc. We’ll see how it works, I’ve never tried anything that messes with dopamine so it should be interesting..

1fast400 dot com sells it for very cheap

Originally Posted by big Bori333
I’ve read that the B6 is important; I read drinking juice helps absorption too.

I’ll stop and pick up some B6 Saturday when I’m out. I do drink a lot of juice though.

Yep, B-6 is cool anyway.Used it for my carpal tunnel.did a good job!! Will get some tyrosine in the future but not expecting anything via way of helping my libido.looking into Arimidex tho’. Will maybe try that but don’t expect miracles.

Originally Posted by webslave
Yep, B-6 is cool anyway.Used it for my carpal tunnel.did a good job!! Will get some tyrosine in the future but not expecting anything via way of helping my libido.looking into Arimidex tho’. Will maybe try that but don’t expect miracles.

Hey Web, Dex? Have you juiced or just losing the natural juice. Maybe you should seek an endocrinologist and consistently get blood work done. I heard of some guy saying that: “Arimidex can boost your natural test by itself”. But it’s a drug and gambling your hormones also IMHO.


Started: Bpel 7 mseg 4.5

Current: Bpel 7.5 mseg 4.75

Goal: at least 8.5X6.5

Yes, I know I need to see a doctor for blood/testosterone etc, and will do that as soon as possible.

Originally Posted by big Bori333
Hey Web, Dex? Have you juiced or just losing the natural juice. Maybe you should seek an endocrinologist and consistently get blood work done. I heard of some guy saying that: “Arimidex can boost your natural test by itself”. But it’s a drug and gambling your hormones also IMHO.

I just had a very intensive blood test performed last month. It showed that everything was “normal”. But my regular doctor sent me to a urologist anyway because I’m still complaining to him that I don’t feel “normal”. The urologist pretty much dismissed me right from the start. He said that since my testosterone numbers were within the ranges that he would not let me supplement with testosterone. That is the same diagnosis that I have received from other urologists so it really didn’t surprise me.

But he also suggested that I need to see an endocrinologist for lack of libido issues. But my worry is that he also will just look at the blood test and see that all the numbers are normal and refuse to do anything. But I have a problem with all of these doctors diagnosing everything as being normal, but I don’t feel normal. I haven’t felt normal in quite a long time. July 24th, 2008 will be 6 years to the date when everything collapsed.

Formula1, if I may ask.just what happened ??

In my case, it’s due to probably alot of different things, my lack of libido and ED.

So, can anyone tell me where would be the best type of place to go to get a blood test, and around how much it would cost? (No insurance)

Originally Posted by DickVanDyke
So, can anyone tell me where would be the best type of place to go to get a blood test, and around how much it would cost? (No insurance)

You can get your free testosterone, cortisol, dhea’s, estrogen’s checked by saliva. .
I heard of websites where they do blood test but I can’t vouch for them, plus it’s going to run you over $150 while the saliva test is $60.


Started: Bpel 7 mseg 4.5

Current: Bpel 7.5 mseg 4.75

Goal: at least 8.5X6.5

Originally Posted by Formula1
I just had a very intensive blood test performed last month. It showed that everything was “normal”. But my regular doctor sent me to a urologist anyway because I’m still complaining to him that I don’t feel “normal”. The urologist pretty much dismissed me right from the start. He said that since my testosterone numbers were within the ranges that he would not let me supplement with testosterone. That is the same diagnosis that I have received from other urologists so it really didn’t surprise me.

But he also suggested that I need to see an endocrinologist for lack of libido issues. But my worry is that he also will just look at the blood test and see that all the numbers are normal and refuse to do anything. But I have a problem with all of these doctors diagnosing everything as being normal, but I don’t feel normal. I haven’t felt normal in quite a long time. July 24th, 2008 will be 6 years to the date when everything collapsed.

Damn bro I feel for you. It’s sucks having low libido man, sex drive and great sex is the essence of life IMO. If your over 40 and not as strong, aggressive, horny, and energized chances are it’s hormonal right? If doc’s don’t want to give you test it’s real cheap anyway. But once you start (HRT)injecting it’s for life I hear. Sex drive is mental also though because me and other guys here felt the mental libido increase on L-tyrosine. Ever since doing steroids I don’t feel 100% like I used to and taking meds in the past I guess don’t help. But I do know my steroids so hit me up if you got any questions relating to it and HRT.


Started: Bpel 7 mseg 4.5

Current: Bpel 7.5 mseg 4.75

Goal: at least 8.5X6.5

Originally Posted by big Bori333
Damn bro I feel for you. It’s sucks having low libido man, sex drive and great sex is the essence of life IMO.

Yes it is and it certainly was for me before all of this happened. That’s why I’m trying so hard to get back to those good old days is because I miss it so much. I mean to look at an attractive woman and not feel anything at all is just plain wrong. My sex drive was such a big part of my existence.

Originally Posted by big Bori333
If your over 40 and not as strong, aggressive, horny, and energized chances are it’s hormonal right?

Hell I guess so but I don’t know which ones are missing or low. It seems like the stuff that they test for all comes back normal.

Originally Posted by big Bori333
If doc’s don’t want to give you test it’s real cheap anyway. But once you start (HRT)injecting it’s for life I hear.

Yeah that’s what the urologist said. He said that if you start with TRT and then get off of it, you really crash and the damage could be permanent.

Blood tests without a doctor’s order are available at LEF.org. You would need to have the blood drawn at a LabCorp office near you, if there is one. I use them a good bit. The prices are reasonable, and the tests are the same tests, at the same lab, as your doctor would order. But it takes about three weeks to get them done - they mail you the requisition, you take it to LabCorp, then they mail you the results. Snail mail.

I’m not sold on saliva tests. I tried them several years ago, and got wildly inconsistent results over time.

You need total and free testosterone, or at least free testosterone, and estradiol.

Formula1, I’d suggest you find a site such as Dr. John’s forums, or the Yahoo Group hypogonadism2, and post your test results, You’ll get some pretty-well-informed opinions as to what they mean. But if everything collapsed six years ago, you need to try to pin down what happened to trigger that. Did you start new medications about that time? Change your diet significantly? Stop exercising? Gain a lot of weight?

Finding a doctor who will work with you on this stuff can be very difficult.

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