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Total testosterone of 290 at 21 years old. Options?

Why are you obssesed with testo supplementation? I am asking in a good way. Are you absolutely convinced that only that will solve your problem?


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by marinera
Testosterone supplementation will likely cause the cyst to grow.

Why would it cause the cyst to grow?

Originally Posted by bill10
Why are you obssesed with testo supplementation? I am asking in a good way. Are you absolutely convinced that only that will solve your problem?

Yea I am because HCG didn’t raise my level so TRT would be the only thing left to do.

TRT doseage is around 125-150mg PER WEEK. Just incase your going to do this yourself.


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Originally Posted by TungstenMan

Why would it cause the cyst to grow?

It is the effect of testosterone on any kind of cysts by what I kno. I guess it depends on the fact that a big part of the cyst is water and test increases water retention. Anyway it is something to ask to your urologist. I am not a physician.

Testosterone only increases water retention through increasing serum free testosterone and hence the amount of testosterone that’s available to be converted to estrogen by the a-r-o-m-a-t-a-s-e enzyme. Estrogen causes the water retention and using an a-n-t-I-a-r-o-m-a-t-a-s-e drug lowers testosterone to estrogen conversion and hence water retention.

Anyways doctors still have not been helpful at all. I’m seriously considering filing a complaint with the medical board where I live against the ones I’ve seen so far. Their behavior is either corrupt, greedy or down right horrible. One guy said he’d only sell H-C-G to me at $500 a month which is 10x the market price. Another “doctor” (guy should get his license revoked immediately and forever) just said to take some herb he’s selling in his office for $300 a bottle (looked it up it’s $20 on amazon) and told me to come back in 6 months (he ignored all symptoms I told him). Told my primary care guy I don’t get erections in morning and I have to force myself to get one or I’ll never have one for weeks (while I told this to him I looked him straight in eyes and was very serious). The result? A referral for a doctor to get a referral to another doctor (wait list to see an neurologist to see a urologist)! I told the guy I’m not sure I can wait 6 to 9 months to see another urologist who will want me to buy his $500 H-C-G or take his $300 herb scam when I’ve already tried H-C-G, c-l-o-m-I-d, herbs, vitamins, etc and guess what? They did not work. He ignored my concerns and was just trying to send me to someone else so I could be “their problem” instead of his.

T-R-T clinics only treat men over a certain age and doctors are just trying to make money while not helping.

Not sure what to do now but my options are limited.

Try homeopathy.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by bill10
Try homeopathy.

Like?

Go to a homeopathy doc. You will only say, I have low testosterone and I wanna fix it. You’ll be asked a few questions and you will be prescribed some pills.Natural stuff. But not <<natural shit>>. You know what I am talking about.

Homeopathy worked for me when science failed. Miserably. I was having trouble sleeping.

Homeopathy fixed it in about 2 months. It’s not expensive.Never had the same problem again.

Google and try finding a homeopathy doc in your city.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

I’m sorry but I’ve tried every supplement, herb, vitamin, etc to raise my level and it hasn’t worked (since I wasn’t aware of low T until 9 months or so ago I was trying to improve my libido and erections). So what exactly would one say? Just something I’ve done already or something else that will fail? I already feel like a sucker for wasting $1000+ on supplements and herbs (of which NONE of them work BTW all the studies out there are completely bullshit and they’re funded by supplement / herb companies. (Obviously I don’t mean all just almost all and the rest are ~1 to 5% improvements for $50 a month.)). I’ve had trouble sleeping some times too and it just goes away. Most likely whatever your doctor did was just a placebo.

Unfortunately for me even direct stimulation of the testes via H-C-G failed which means nothing will work to raise my level “naturally” so I’m shit out of luck. The only thing left to do is replacement therapy. I tried this online clinic and unfortunately my level tested at 358 which is just higher than 350.. (Men need to test under 350 to qualify for treatment + the guy said that due to my age they’d try c-l-o-m-I-d and H-C-G again which using the standard protocols would take around a year (but I didn’t even qualify for that.)). It’s just such bullshit that I’m 21 and no one will treat me. Low enough to suffer but “too high” to treat.

I can guarentee you it’s not the same. You probably gonna pay like 30-50 dollars for the pills max. It’s like 5-10 dollars for pills any time that the doc thinks you will need them.. It ain’t the same. Go for it.

For example. My doc gave me 6 very specific pills the first time. I paid like 10 euros for them. After 2 months gave me another 4 pills of a different kind according to my progress. I paid about 12 euros. Never took abything else and my issue was solved. I ain’t lying mate.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Pills of what?

Just started replacement therapy today so I’ll see how it goes.

Originally Posted by TungstenMan
Pills of what?

Of natural stuff. For example for my issue the first pills/capsules I was given contained viper’s poison. Read about homeopathy.Do not reject anything. Read about it first.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

I’m going to chime in. I’m 37 and my test is 267. No libido. I can get hard, just have no sex drive. So, I do testosterone cycles and I am an animal. My dick is like a monster. I take Nolvadex and Clomid for pct and and HCG to keep my balls healthy. The problem is Dr’s have no idea about this stuff. They think anything between 200-900 is normal. Sorry, if you are 80 years old with a 250 test level fine, but not when you are 25. There is a huge difference in sex drive with test levels. Idc, I’m running cycles because I’m not a 60 year old man with no sex drive. I love sex and there are zero natural alternatives to increase your test to a sufficient level.

I will never say anyone should take steroids, that’s a personal decision. But for me, I want a sex life, so that’s what I’m going to do. Without the testosterone, I could have sex once year and be fine. That is lame and Dr’s will not do ANYTHING if your test levels are between 200-900 cause that’s NORMAL. Yeah, whatever.


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