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Testosterone aand estrogen balance.

Testosterone aand estrogen balance.

Is one’s Testosterone level inversely proportional to ones estrogen level?

I think I may be somewhat estrogenic. I tend to retain fat around my waist and thighs and I have trouble gaining muscle at the gym. Are there any other indicators of being estrogenic?

There has been much discussion on ways to increase testosterone, but what about ways to lower estrogen? Are there any supplements one can take? Also, I generally avoid soy products, but I do use fake butter spreads that have a lot of soy bean oil. Is this a problem?

>Is one’s Testosterone level inversely proportional to ones estrogen level?

The short answer is a tentative yes, but the feedback system is complex.

>I think I may be somewhat estrogenic. I tend to retain fat around my waist and thighs and I have trouble gaining muscle at the gym. Are there any other indicators of being estrogenic?

Have your hormones tested. Blood should be drawn in the morning. Total T, Free T, estradiol, and probably a few others I’m not recalling offhand. Obtain the results and lab reference numbers. If you truly suspect you have a problem, lab work should be your first priority.

Originally Posted by davesj1
I do use fake butter spreads that have a lot of soy bean oil. Is this a problem?

Yes.


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There are some threads here and articles on the net saying soy is estrogenic …

To reduce estrogen:
>You can change your diet to include more saturated fats. Many disagree with this, but it has helped me.
>You can avoid vegetable products that contain phytoestrogens such as soy.
>You can take anti estrogen drugs such as arimadex.

And no, it’s not exactly inversely proportional. When you do things to raise your test level, some things that are used will convert and actually raise your estrogen levels.

Stay away from soy. As to the fat it’s most likely your diet versus too high of estrogen levels and MEN do indeed need estrogen.

There are alot of exciting chemicals that can control your estrogen levels and the SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin)

Look for a product called AIFM! It is sold over the counter and works great to reduce estrogen levels. it is produced by AVOPharm for Anafit Inc.

But most likely it’s your diet.

Originally Posted by davesj1
Is one’s Testosterone level inversely proportional to ones estrogen level?

I think I may be somewhat estrogenic. I tend to retain fat around my waist and thighs and I have trouble gaining muscle at the gym. Are there any other indicators of being estrogenic?

There has been much discussion on ways to increase testosterone, but what about ways to lower estrogen? Are there any supplements one can take? Also, I generally avoid soy products, but I do use fake butter spreads that have a lot of soy bean oil. Is this a problem?

My diet consists of a mostly whole grains (usually wheat), vegetables, peanut butter and occasionally some chicken. As said before I do use the fake butter often.

Ive read that red meat can help increase testosterone.

My advice is to do what Hobby suggested and not muck around with trying to adjust T and E2 values on your own if you don’t even know what they are.

Normally, T and E are in good balance due to a _very_ complicated sort of ballet that goes on all the time in our hormonal systems. When T rises a little too high, it becomes “aromatized” and changes into E2, which is Estrodiol. Then you make more T. Then you make more E. And there are other compounds at work, as well. The dance goes on nicely, and successfully. The sex parts of the choreography play out well, your libido is in a good place; secondary female sexual characteristics are held at bay, actually off to Stage Left, where they belong. You don’t have to think about diet, so long as you eat a balanced one. It all just works.

Sometimes the dance gets screwed up and you, the dancer, don’t know how or why. But if you decide to manage your own hormonal system instead of letting experts do it - try to increase your own T by whatever means or lower your E, you throw things off further and become the dying swan, right there on stage in front of a packed house. Get checked, if your libido is off or other signs of hormonal imbalance are there.

Soy products: It will take a whole lot of convincing to convince me that soy is bad for you in this way. I live in a very Asian environment. We all (well, most of us) eat a lot of soy in various forms and have for a very long time. The Japanese and Chinese residents of Hawaii are not stumbling around on the dance floor and a lot of them eat tofu every day of life. I don’t know anybody who doesn’t use soy sauce in some of their cooking. We even pop edame (blanched soy beans) as snacks. There seems no evidence that soy is a no-no.


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