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Forgive me if this question sounds ignorant, but how does estrogen (female hormone) get into soybeans?

Originally Posted by gprent
So you are saying that guys raised on meat have big bull cocks while guys raised on soy have little bean cocks? :)

I certainly wouldn’t test it myself :p

This shit is high on estrogen, right? It looks like a bad idea to eat it.
I need all my natural testesterone. Estrogen lowers it.
Bad idea :)


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OK,

I have tried to raise my testosterone levels in many different ways and if try to do it naturally the effects are so minute it is a waste of money.

If eating testosterone does not raise your testosterone levels how does eating estrogen increase them?

If this is the case then you’d think doctors would be prescribing soy diets for women after menopause instead of just taking estrogen supplements.

I wonder if this isn’t something put out there by the meat and dairy industries to scare people towards more beef and milk? :)

Everytime I hear anything about soy, I can’t forget Lewis Black’s rave about soy milk. “There can’t be soy milk because there’s no soy tittie” :)

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

I wonder what The All Knowing Wiki has to say about this subject?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean#Soy_controversy

From that very article:

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Jim Rutz, chairman of Megashift Ministries and founder-chairman of Open Church Ministries claimed in conservative magazine World Net Daily that “Soy is making kids ‘gay’”. He claims that “Estrogens are female hormones,” and therefore soy “…is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality.” [27]

So, our friend Jim works for Christian publications. That explains the comment that homosexuality is deviant.


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The whole WND web site is a christian run site, thats why soy makes you gay :) and since the news comes from WND it doesn’t need to be backed up. :)

I know with all the hormones going into the animals and getting into the meat and dairy we are pretty much an experiment in the making. One thing I have noticed girls are maturing much faster and boys are maturing later. I pick my 13 year old daughter up from school and the girls look 18 and the boys look 9 most of the girls are even taller than the boys. My daughter got her period at 11 and so did a lot of my friends daughters. Every time my daughter drinks a glass of milk she is getting these estrogen inducing hormones passed to her. When I was in 7th grade I had the making of mustache already and I wasn’t the only one now the boys seem like they are hitting puberty a bit later. I try to buy organic when I can but it’s expensive and I’m far from rich.


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My wife and I were discussing this article and it does ring somewhat true in an unscientific sort of way. My wife reached menarche at 9 and was raised on mostly soy as she was lactose intolerant as a baby. I tend to support the theory as well as I developed somewhat late..couldn’t really grow a moustache until I was into my thirties! But I don’t remember having soy in my diet at all. Maybe those damned hormones pumped into the dairy cows.. I did drink a s***load of milk.

Originally Posted by 24 Hours
Forgive me if this question sounds ignorant, but how does estrogen (female hormone) get into soybeans?

Soy contains isoflavones (they are like phytoestrogens). I don’t know how “efficient” on negative side they can be in respect of real endogenous or external estrogens; they seem to have also positive effects but if the body can assimilate them as estrogens, this surely it’s scaring a lot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogen

P.S. JK, just for making clear, I obviously think also those Rutz’s stupid considerations about one’s legitimate sexual behaviour are bullshit and none of his business.
Nonetheless I truly believe everybody is entitled to his own moral and religious judgements, beliefs and thoughts, in accordance with constitutional rights.


"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” - Eleanor Roosevelt

I’m not so sure about the gay part, but I also believe soy is bad, bad, bad.

24 hours, soy doesn’t contain actual estrogen, it contains phytoestrogens (or isoflavones that act as phytoestrogens) that mimic what estrogen does in the body. Aside from mimic-ing estrogen, which I don’t think the soy phytoestrogens do that strongly, they tell your body that you have more estrogen than it really does, so it increases your SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) that binds both estrogen and testosterone. That lowers your free testosterone and that is why I don’t like soy.

JK. I didn’t realize that every time you bust a nut, God kills a kitten. Now I feel like a kitten serial killer, yet I can’t stop myself.

Originally Posted by JK.Lancetrainer
Perhaps it’s true that an intake of soy raises estrogen levels somewhat. But so does drinking a lot of beer, being fat and so on… Argh, I can’t take much more of this insanity! Forget this shit.

First, nice rant.

On the point of concerns about soy, as some other posters have mentioned, there have been questions about the effects of the estrogen-like compounds floating around for quite a while. Sorry, I don’t have anything to cite.

I had a friend who was complaining to me about low libido. I knew that his wife had converted him to vegetarianism and he was getting a lot of soy, and I told him something to the effect that his wife was turning him into a pussy - plus I turned him on to some articles about the subject. He cut back the soy, and his libido came back. Anecdotal, but attention-getting.

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