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Originally Posted by Lampwick
Moto64:

LOL?

Really?

That one’s got you laughing out loud, eh?

Help me understand. What is so laughing-out-loud funny about a poster asking others not to circumcise their children?

Chatspeak is not banned here, but it is discouraged. More thoughtful responses than LOL are encouraged. Thanks.

When it comes to chat speak like “lol” and “IMO”, it doesn’t seem like anyone cares about them because they are so universally known. But I think it’s different when to’s becomes 2’s or something along those lines.

I also laughed a bit at both of those comments. :)

I refused to allow my son to be circumcised


"We have met the enemy, and he is us."

Circumcision, don't do it.

Hi all,

I’m not really trying to start a war here but I know this can become a heated debate.
It’s always always frustrated me for years as a boy until now (I’m 31) but I’ve never actively considered reversing it or whinging on the internet about it.
I’d like to think that this post may just convince one father to be to change his mind about dicing up his boys cock.

I was done at birth sometime and I’m one of those ‘statistics’ where I’ve had un-necessary complications due to it.
First being a medium to bad case of turkey neck, (if you don’t know what it is, type ‘turkey neck penis’ into google images)
What people without turkey neck don’t know is it makes our cocks shaped almost like a V, sure the skin hanging down the bottom just folds in, it’s not like the tunica becomes V shaped but the problem is the scrotum skin ends up ‘dangling about’ under your dick, this causes it to rub on a girls taint (the bit at the bottom of her pussy between her asshole)
Long story short, sore girlfriend, mild sex problems, infact your girlfriends natural lubricants will literally stick to your turkey neck and ‘air out in the wind’ during sex (this WILL dry her out, I know!)

I always wanted a nice, long ‘meatpipe’ porn star looking cock because of this turkey neck, instead I have a ballsack that’s attached half way up my dick.

Other problems include, hair growing OVER 2/3 of the way up my shaft on the bottom and sides
Skin can be tight from a hardon if you’ve got a real raging cock
and of course the more traditional things anti-circumcision people complain about, like a dried out penis head and less sensitivity.

I am not a religious man, nature evolved us with the skin there, sure with the skin still in tact I may be a little faster in the sack, because my cock is more as sensitive but otherwise mother nature would have ‘evolved the skin off’ if it was bad (most animals have it)

Finally, there’s a lot of urban legend going around about smelly dicks, hard to wash dicks, easily being susseptable (sp?) to disease / aids and other things, these are urban legend, teach your boy to wash his cock and that’s that.
I really hope this helps someone, it feels good to vent it out there.
Personally I’ve decided I’d rather go for PE gains rather than 2 years of working on foreskin, if I ever end up with the dick I want, maybe I’ll consider foreskin then, but please don’t do it to someone else without their permission, I’m still bitter when I think someone did this to me, without my permission.

Final thing, not work safe - check this out, a rare, rare instance but if this doesn’t enrage you like it did me, well I don’t know what to say
http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched4ga.html

Oh sorry, one more thing, I completely forgot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Circumcision, eventually leading to suicide (with some pretty unpleasant complications - just read)

Originally Posted by Moto64
Sorry about the chatspeak, Lampwick. I’m pretty sure it’s the first time I’ve ever used it here; it was just a quick impulse as the post really did have me laughing out loud. I don’t really feel like I need to explain my sense of humor or what I find funny though. I guess my poor response was due to me seeing that post as a joke.

You’re effectively trolling at this point, quite obviously too.
You may disagree with the OP and the rest of the whiny anti-circumcision crowd but let me put this to you.

How many circumcised men would like their foreskin back? Let’s say 10%
How many circumcised men had their cocks damaged due to the operation? Let’s say even 1%
How many circumcised men are fine with their circumcision - we’ll we can assume 90%

These are random and approximate figures, of course.

Now how many uncircumcised men want to be circumcised and are also bitter?! - answer, none or any which are can fix it themselves with a surgeon.
The fact is there is, without doubt physical damage which can be caused by circumcision, due to naive people making choices which simply shouldn’t be up to them.
It may not be common, hell it might be quite rare but frankly, why take something that’s not yours? It’s 2009 for goodness sakes, not 1946 or something like that.

So, disagree all you like, feel free to express your opinion with ‘well mine’s fine and I don’t know anyone else with a problem, you people are being excessive’ but calling their opinion a ‘joke’ and ‘lol’ well, it doesn’t make you appear clever, quite the opposite.

Originally Posted by inches-au

Oh sorry, one more thing, I completely forgot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Circumcision, eventually leading to suicide (with some pretty unpleasant complications - just read)

The article tells a slightly different story about a man undergoing sex reassignment during early childhood after his parents had him circumsized using an “unconventional” technique that I’ve never heard still being used these days. To say that circumcision itself caused him to suicide is reinventing the facts.


Et... la nuit se continue. C\'est vrai. Elle est complètement dechirée - ma tête.

Originally Posted by Churchy Lefemme
These surveys were done in a country where circumcision is the norm, right? The women are showing a preference what they’re used to, what they view as normal.

Conduct this survey in a country where circumcision is rare, and see what the result is. I’ll bet you that the average woman from the UK, France, or Germany would view a circumcised penis as mutillated.

I live in the Wales that little bit next to england?
And I only know one guy who is circumcised and that is because his foreskin was too tight.
It aint the norm here at all for that.

But I think for health reasons like less HIV and strangleation of the knob it’s ok.


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Appearance mostly. Im getting mine revised, but its whatever. If i was uncircumcised it wouldnt bother me. Uncircumcised men have much better looking glans. Not all dried out looking.

Originally Posted by Sir Wally
The article tells a slightly different story about a man undergoing sex reassignment during early childhood after his parents had him circumsized using an “unconventional” technique that I’ve never heard still being used these days. To say that circumcision itself caused him to suicide is reinventing the facts.

He was ‘pescribed’ circumcision to fix something ‘wrong’ with his dick, when in fact that was not the correct solution.
The end result, thanks to the botched circumcision is a baby boy, being ‘forced’ into a baby girl and ultimately living a miserable life and killing himself - agreed not entirely circumcisions fault but it wouldn’t have hapenned had it not been done.

Besides scope out that poor kid with the gangrene, I think that really sums it up to be honest.

Originally Posted by Sir Wally
The article tells a slightly different story about a man undergoing sex reassignment during early childhood after his parents had him circumsized using an “unconventional” technique that I’ve never heard still being used these days. To say that circumcision itself caused him to suicide is reinventing the facts.

Complications can occur with any surgery, even conventional ones. Do you doubt that infants are still being “reassigned” after serious complications from circumcision?

I am uncircumcised, and I like it that way. I don’t think it is fair to say that girls prefer a circumcised penis, because alot of them can’t tell the difference. I have been asked multiple time by girls if I am circumcised or not, they just cant tell in an erect state. I don’t have a particularly long foreskin so that may have something to do with it, but the bottom line is, they can’t tell. If you asked them with words what they liked better, who knows what they would say, but if I had of told them I was circumcised, they would have believed me.

With regards to contracting HIV, I am sure it is safe to say that nobody would stick their cock in a woman that they knew had aids, regardless of whether they are circumcised or not. Circumcision might slightly decrease the chances of contracting it, but it doesn’t offer a reliable means of protection in any stretch of the imagination.

With regards to pleasure, it is impossible for a circumcised man to know what they are missing, because they have just never had a foreskin, unless they were circumcised as an adult. I think it makes sense that it would be more pleasurable for a woman though, just more skin to stick in there. There is also something I have read about previously, I can’t remember where, but it basically states that the foreskin sort of bunches up to a point inside the woman, and then when there is enough pressure, moves forward. This motion is supposed to be more pleasurable. I know that I have had girls say things to me like “your cock feels amazing” and “I love your cock” in the context it seemed as though they meant in comparison to others. That could be any number of things, like size, shape, or whatever, but I have always thought that the fact that I am uncircumcised probably had something to do with it.

As far as cleanliness goes, I have never had any issue with it. I shower every day, and that seems to do the trick. Smegma, at least for me, isn’t something that builds up throughout the day, in fact I have never even seen it. I do know that if I don’t shower one day, by the next morning, so 48 hours after showering, my penis may be less than fresh, no visible smegma, but might smell a little funky. But then again, so does my hair and skin everywhere else on my body. Unless you are planning on being homeless, or not showering for days at a time, cleanliness is absolutely not a factor.

Last but not least, I don’t need lube to jack off, my foreskin does all the work, and that it priceless.

Originally Posted by elijah_wood
I am uncircumcised, and I like it that way.

Exactly, you’re what I’m trying to point out, very very very few uncircumcised men have complications due to being uncircumcised and very very few are annoyed by it and want a circumcision.
Those that do want one, can!

Originally Posted by elijah_wood
I don’t think it is fair to say that girls prefer a circumcised penis, because alot of them can’t tell the difference.

I am from Australia (hence the AU) and I’ve been using the internet a long long time.
From what I’ve gathered, you’re somewhat wrong on this, at least in the case of American girls.
I don’t know how to politely put it other than, they are completely backwards thinking, religion seems more prevelant in the US and I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of girls are brought up to be told that uncircumcised is ‘dirty’
Not all girls but definitely quite a large portion of girls think that way, from what my US friends tell me.

It’s not like that here in Australia, girls like a dick, they don’t care what shape it comes in as long as it’s clean and it works!

Originally Posted by elijah_wood

With regards to contracting HIV, I am sure it is safe to say that nobody would stick their cock in a woman that they knew had aids, regardless of whether they are circumcised or not. Circumcision might slightly decrease the chances of contracting it, but it doesn’t offer a reliable means of protection in any stretch of the imagination.

Agreed and again, the rumours that a circumcised penis prevents aids is myth anyhow.

Originally Posted by elijah_wood

With regards to pleasure, it is impossible for a circumcised man to know what they are missing, because they have just never had a foreskin, unless they were circumcised as an adult. I think it makes sense that it would be more pleasurable for a woman though, just more skin to stick in there. There is also something I have read about previously, I can’t remember where, but it basically states that the foreskin sort of bunches up to a point inside the woman, and then when there is enough pressure, moves forward. This motion is supposed to be more pleasurable. I know that I have had girls say things to me like “your cock feels amazing” and “I love your cock” in the context it seemed as though they meant in comparison to others. That could be any number of things, like size, shape, or whatever, but I have always thought that the fact that I am uncircumcised probably had something to do with it.

Sadly, I wouldn’t know as mine was removed without my permission (hence my opinion in this thread!)

Thanks for the response, I think the only people who blindly defend circumcision are the ones who’ve had it done at childbirth and have never had any complications, even then some of those people are sensible enough to understand the predicament of others.

I too am very much against circumcision . I feel it is an unethical practice to have someone circumcised without his consent and personally would never have mine circumcised

No-win post war.
Personal decision(s), unfortunately made by well meaning parents, whether religious reasons or not.
As I mentioned in another post, I am an RN and have seen hundreds, if not thousands, of cocks over my 30yr career.

Some thoughts for you to consider.
The 2 main problems I see in uncircumcised males is hygiene and phimosis . If one does not do cleaning of the glans frequently there is a ripe environment for infection. Some of the glans I’ve had to clean on some of the old men were awful.
Phimosis is a tight forskin that causes discomfort or restriction of the glans during an erection. Many men have to have the forskin removed in later life due to the above problems.
When I have had to put in catheters on some uncircumcised men it is difficult, if not impossible, to retract the forskin. Sometimes the forskin retraction is more painful than the catheter.

Sorry if this is “graphic”.
Me? I’m cut, so is my son ( I made the decision for him at birth, mostly for the reasons above, and when he developed diabetes at age 12 I am more grateful for the decision I made)
Peace.

Originally Posted by dumski
Me? I’m cut, so is my son ( I made the decision for him at birth, mostly for the reasons above, and when he developed diabetes at age 12 I am more grateful for the decision I made)
Peace.

My dad is uncut. (and bigger than me I might add, DAMNIT!) I was circumcised at birth, and so were both my boys. I remember no pain, I do not think I was butchered or defiled in any way. I still have a little bit of foreskin left, and as a child I remember some, um, unpleasant buildup between the glans and foreskin. However, it was easy to see and clean.

I think if someone is uncircumcised, GREAT for them. If not, great for them. I like the way my penis looks. And I would not want to have it any other way. I have great sensation on/in/around my glans, and sex has always been pleasurable. (with the right woman, of course, that’s for another thread)

I passed this down to my kids, because, 1)it takes any adolescent/adult foreskin related complications out of the picture and 2) most of the women I’ve been with prefer the look and feel of my circumcised units. (yes they had both)

In some ways, I think this is almost like the breast size or penis size issue. If your ok with “whatever” and your partner is ok, than everything is “ok”.

But, I do not buy into the concept that circumcision some form of mutilation or child abuse.


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