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Nice! That’s exactly what I want to do, a lean bulk. Did you go from a “cutting” calorie intake up to maintenance (for me 2000 to 2500), and then slowly increase? Or did you go up 200 every 2 weeks from your low calorie diet? If I’m still doing low intensity cardio a few days a week, will 2200 calories be enough to gain muscle?


Jelq, ADS, repeat.

Final Goal: 8EL x 6.2

Must...think...long...term.

Originally Posted by Kojack10
I have become interested in a calorie restriction diet because of the claims that it can ad years to a person’s life. I don’t know if I will attempt the CF diet or not. It conflicts with my desire to put on about 15 lbs of muscle. Also, until this thread, I had not considered the effects on testosterone. I need to have a high sex drive in order to get aroused for vanilla sex. If I’m not that horny, it is harder for me to get it up for something that is not somewhat kinky.

In years past, I read much about eating to gain muscle. I do remember that fat intake did have an effect on testosterone production. My thoughts on trying to find a happy medium are the same as what Karl wrote in his post (post #11 on this thread).

Fasting is an alternative. Unlike what the poster above said, there’s nothing absurd with it, it’s very healthy.
USATODAY.com - Study: Fasting improves health as much as cutting calories

It shouldn’t get in the way of building muscle either as long as you eat a lot when you aren’t fasting and exercise plenty.

Originally Posted by TheContinental
Nice! That’s exactly what I want to do, a lean bulk. Did you go from a “cutting” calorie intake up to maintenance (for me 2000 to 2500), and then slowly increase? Or did you go up 200 every 2 weeks from your low calorie diet? If I’m still doing low intensity cardio a few days a week, will 2200 calories be enough to gain muscle?


Well, I made one mistake in past by doubling caloric intake literally over night (jumped from 2000-2500 calories to 4000 calories) and that made me full of water with zero definition, especially around the stomach, I gained 10 centimetres around my waist. That made me afraid of any sudden changes so I gradually increased calories from 1900 to 2000, then 2200, then 2400, 2600 and so on.

Enough calories to gain muscle depends on how big you are, but I think 2200 would be too low no matter your size.

Ok I’ll move up to maintenance (2500) and sit there for 2 weeks. That’s enough of a change my body will probably build some muscle, but shouldn’t lead to much fat. I’ll go from there, adding slowly when needed.

Water weight is so annoying. You have a salty meal, even if you’re still in your deficit, and you wake up lookin fatter. I’ve learned to know when I put on water weight (not real weight) and just drink 2 gallons of water that day to chase it all out.

Fasting can get results, and may be healthy once in a long time, but it’s definitely not fun. Light headed, headaches, low energy…not for me. I’d rather eat 3 to 5 times a day, feel full, and lose weight (like I have been).


Jelq, ADS, repeat.

Final Goal: 8EL x 6.2

Must...think...long...term.

The first couple times I fasted, I felt that way too. You get used to it though. It won’t be long before you can skip meals without the slightest discomfort.

Is there a possibility that fasting could have similar effects as a CR diet on longevity?


Struggling with a peyronies injury during sex and loss of size after having been into PE.

The research I’ve seen says that it actually has stronger effects.

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