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Originally Posted by mravg

bomkara, your dad taught you to jelk at age 13? Wow. Did you do it regularly after he showed you. Did you end up having a big dick from this?

Unhappily no. He taught me when I was 13y.o. simple exercises (resembling dry jelks on mid shaft) made with the thumb and forefinger with the objective to loose prepuce and frenulum, and this was done successfully.

He didn’t mention anything about PE in that occasion. After that time, my parents divorce and he remove alone to the northern region of Brazil, the Amazonian state of Pará, when resided for many years. We recuperate contact 20 years ago; he required my help to be in failing health. I assisted him here, in my town, southeast Brazil, until he died 10 years ago.

During his treatment, in my house, I knew he made regularly penile exercises that I imagined was masturbation.

He explained the exercises weren’t masturbation, but techniques for penis health, sexual performance and (with a waggish smile), penis enlargement. He learned these techniques from one Spanish friend of Arab ethnic, at Belem city, capital of Pará.(There are a numerous Arab colony in Belem). Coincidence or not, if it is not true that jelks and other PE exercises had Arab origin, or are Arabian practices, my father learned it from one person with such origin. All friends of mine here, of Arab ethnic, asked about these practices, always said they don’t know anything about it, so I never knew one other person that could confirm such origin. In the occasion I learned from my father the techniques, my life was so full of problems that I did not dedicate all the attention required to obtain the best benefits from the PE side. Only about six years ago I began regularly to do the exercises.There are specialized (or advanced) exercises that I did not practice yet. (The notes about was disappeared until some months ago).

Since then, I gained 3 cm in length (1 1/4’) and 1,3 cm (1/2’) in girth mid shaft; and 1,5 cm (5/8’) in head and base girth. My actual stats are: BP 7 1/8’ length (18cm), 5 1/4’ mid shaft (13,4 cm) full erection, with 5 1/2’ (14cm) in base and head girth. Uncut, head always uncovered, 2 1/8’ (5,4cm) length full erection. Head girth under full erection pressure is 6’ (15cm).

Regards.

Originally Posted by meiya777
@Bom,
Thanks for your valueable information.

No, we’re uncut, but my son will do it this year. I don’t think I will tell him anything about stretch or jelq right now. As I said, when time comes, he will learn by himself from this site.

Thanks for your answer. I think I was misunderstood about my suggestion. I didn’t and I don’t recommend you teach your son about stretch or jelk right now. The “jelks” I learned from my father are different from the way jelks are demonstrate here. These exercises has the objective to loose prepuce and frenulum, and so, avoid circumcision.
However, if the prepuce and frenulum of your son are so tight (phimosis and frenulum breve) maybe the surgery (if I understood correctly) he will do this year could be necessary.
The simple exercises my father taught me avoided the surgery. I don’t like surgery because always one scar remains.
Other way to obtain good solution for phimosis in your son without surgery is the pomade Postec (patented by Apsen Farmaceutica - Brasil) that combine betametazone 0,2 % and hialuronidase 150 UTR. This medicament is efficient in 90% of the cases, in children and adults and is a revolutionary new treatment.
My best regards and good luck. You’re one excellent father.

Originally Posted by Razarei
Agreed. I used to be bathed with my brother / mother / father. Nothing sexual, just quality family time :P

When I was a kid my dad would spank me naked. When he was done I told him to put his clothes back on.

It sounds better if I tell it instead of write it.

Originally Posted by mravg
My opinion is DO NOT mention anything about how much he masturbates. I personally think it is none of your business and you can not judge what is too much. Everyone is different. I have been beating off more than once per day for 40 years (I laugh as I type it). It’s just how I am.

PE is a more controversial, but I agree with whoever said don’t give him a complex he would not otherwise have. If he goes through life never thinking about the size of his dick, then it is big enough, no matter how big it is!

mravg,

That sounds a little more than average.

Yes, for that I think I am not average.


Horny Bastard

As a parent, I will give my sons a hint about PE, not about what size they should have. Their health as well as penile health is my concern.

Originally Posted by bomkara
Thanks for your answer. I think I was misunderstood about my suggestion. I didn’t and I don’t recommend you teach your son about stretch or jelk right now. The “jelks” I learned from my father are different from the way jelks are demonstrate here. These exercises has the objective to loose prepuce and frenulum, and so, avoid circumcision.
However, if the prepuce and frenulum of your son are so tight (phimosis and frenulum breve) maybe the surgery (if I understood correctly) he will do this year could be necessary.
The simple exercises my father taught me avoided the surgery. I don’t like surgery because always one scar remains.
Other way to obtain good solution for phimosis in your son without surgery is the pomade Postec (patented by Apsen Farmaceutica - Brasil) that combine betametazone 0,2 % and hialuronidase 150 UTR. This medicament is efficient in 90% of the cases, in children and adults and is a revolutionary new treatment.
My best regards and good luck. You’re one excellent father.

I appreciate hearing of your experience, bombkara. My now 10 year old son’s phimosis was the subject of one of my first posts here: foreskin no-retraction. His foreskin is still tight around his glans and his opening is still quite small. The foreskin doesn’t pull back at all. As advised by his pediatrician and a pediatric urologist, I encourage him to pull back on the foreskin to stretch it. Usually that means reminding him everytime he’s in the shower — about three times a week. It’s not doing much so far. He just doesn’t do it enough to make much of a difference.

But, it may help when he discovers manual masturbation. So far I’ve just seen him sprawled on the floor of his room wiggling on pillow.

Would you mind explaining a little more about the “jelks” you learned from your father?

I’ll look into Postec. Googling it, I found a forum where these issues are discussed: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/

Do you bath with your son? You can show him what to do, as he may not understand just by words.

Originally Posted by Ike
But, it may help when he discovers manual masturbation. So far I’ve just seen him sprawled on the floor of his room wiggling on pillow.

If I see my son does it, I might be thinking if he is imitating something sexual and I will worry where he finds out.

It happened once to my eldest son, he just simply type “www.sex.com”, and after surfing he talks with his little sister, it really made me so worried that my wife and I immediately talk to them and discuss about what they saw.

Kids, especially boys, are more easily influenced by what they get from the net, and most of the time, they mis-interpret it.

Ike:

Boys usually begins manual masturbation later, from the start of puberty. Till then, practices like you observe (wiggling on pillows. etc) are instinctive training nearly always without orgasm, but pleasant. (We have erections since the gestational times inside uterus).

To distend a phimotic prepuce this don’t help much. I remember that at that age I did it many times and one occasion of excessiveness the tip of my penis became swollen. I got a (light) reprimand from my father and after two days the swelling was gone. Later he recommended me to massage over the glans with the pulp of thumb, supporting the under side with the forefinger, to help detach the inner prepuce that was attached by one side on the glans, and then try retract the prepuce with care.

At once I got some skill, this exercise was extended to the shaft of the penis pointing to glans. (It’s a sort of localized “jelk”, isn’t ?) After so, I had to experiment retract the prepuce again.

Little by little, the prepuce opening became more wide, until, finally, I could expose completely the glans. This process took some weeks, maybe two months, I don’t remember. Most of the time is efficient.

About Postec: there is not a site in English, only in Portuguese. It’s a new medicament introduced in 2003. I don’t know if you can find it in USA, but here isn’t expensive. I hope this information can be useful.

My best regards,

Bomkara.

Originally Posted by meiya777
Do you bath with your son? You can show him what to do, as he may not understand just by words.

If I see my son does it, I might be thinking if he is imitating something sexual and I will worry where he finds out.

If he’s especially dirty I sometimes tell him to get in the shower with me, but then I step out after I get him watered down. At his age, I don’t want to touch his boy parts, or demonstrate how to stretch the prepuce by touching mine (oh wait, I don’t have one). He seems to do stretch his foreskin the right way, when he does it.

So far, I don’t get the sense that my son’s pillow wiggling is associated with fantasizing about anyone else. It just feels good.

Originally Posted by bomkara
Later he recommended me to massage over the glans with the pulp of thumb, supporting the under side with the forefinger, to help detach the inner prepuce that was attached by one side on the glans, and then try retract the prepuce with care.
At once I got some skill, this exercise was extended to the shaft of the penis pointing to glans. (It’s a sort of localized “jelk”, isn’t ?) After so, I had to experiment retract the prepuce again.
Little by little, the prepuce opening became more wide, until, finally, I could expose completely the glans. This process took some weeks, maybe two months, I don’t remember. Most of the time is efficient.

Thank you. That is exactly what I’ve been trying to get my son to do, but he’s just not into it yet, so he doesn’t do it enough. I’d think it would be pleasurable, he just needs to keep at it for more than a few seconds. Someday soon I bet he will discover manual masturbation and then, like most of us, he’ll do it as often as he can.

The phimosis isn’t that big a deal to him right now. His opening is so tight that I don’t think it gets dirty underneath the foreskin. The prepuce where it extends from the tip of his glans is about a quarter inch long, and the only hassle with it right now is it makes his pee go slightly left, so he stands slightly to the right over the toilet. Now, that might become a problem in the future if he’s standing at a urinal and shifts slightly towards the guy next to him as he pees. ‘Guess we better deal with that before he gets into his teenage years.

I haven’t found much mention of Postec on English sites, so it might not be available here yet. It will probably be perscription here and probably have to go through some sort of testing process to get FDA approval, so we may not see it for a while.

Originally Posted by Ike
If he’s especially dirty I sometimes tell him to get in the shower with me, but then I step out after I get him watered down. At his age, I don’t want to touch his boy parts, or demonstrate how to stretch the prepuce by touching mine (oh wait, I don’t have one). He seems to do stretch his foreskin the right way, when he does it.

So far, I don’t get the sense that my son’s pillow wiggling is associated with fantasizing about anyone else. It just feels good.

Thank you. That is exactly what I’ve been trying to get my son to do, but he’s just not into it yet, so he doesn’t do it enough. I’d think it would be pleasurable, he just needs to keep at it for more than a few seconds. Someday soon I bet he will discover manual masturbation and then, like most of us, he’ll do it as often as he can.

The phimosis isn’t that big a deal to him right now. His opening is so tight that I don’t think it gets dirty underneath the foreskin. The prepuce where it extends from the tip of his glans is about a quarter inch long, and the only hassle with it right now is it makes his pee go slightly left, so he stands slightly to the right over the toilet. Now, that might become a problem in the future if he’s standing at a urinal and shifts slightly towards the guy next to him as he pees. ‘Guess we better deal with that before he gets into his teenage years.

I haven’t found much mention of Postec on English sites, so it might not be available here yet. It will probably be perscription here and probably have to go through some sort of testing process to get FDA approval, so we may not see it for a while.

Ike:
The results of Postec + light exercises of distension the phimosis are so effective to patients in the range of 1 y.o. - 30 y.o., that has no reason for delay the treatment and so, avoid definitively surgery. Some boys with phimosis don’t have prejudice in the glans growth, but some have. At the present, there is not information when the Apsen Farmacêutica will demand FDA approval for this medicament in the USA, so, this will not occur in the near future.
In spite of this, any time you want try this treatment for your son, send a PM, it will gives me a pleasure to be useful.
Regards, Bomkara.

Originally Posted by bomkara
Ike:
The results of Postec + light exercises of distension the phimosis are so effective to patients in the range of 1 y.o. - 30 y.o., that has no reason for delay the treatment and so, avoid definitively surgery. Some boys with phimosis don’t have prejudice in the glans growth, but some have. At the present, there is not information when the Apsen Farmacêutica will demand FDA approval for this medicament in the USA, so, this will not occur in the near future.
In spite of this, any time you want try this treatment for your son, send a PM, it will gives me a pleasure to be useful.
Regards, Bomkara.

Thank you. I’ll do some research on Postec. Do you know how it works? Is it steroid-based? When we went to the pediatric urologist, she prescribed a fairly strong steroid cream which we used for several weeks with no apparent change. I’m seeing in med articles that four to six weeks is required, so maybe we didn’t do it long enough. The steroid apparently thins the skin making it more stretchy.

This inspires me to schedule another appointment if the current stretching regimen doesn’t work. Maybe they have other, non-steroidal, treaments for boys on the cusp of puberty. I’ll ask about Postec too.

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