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PEFORREAL,

So I assume you were jacking off……did you just stop jacking off and hold with the kegel, or do you continue to stroke while you kegel???

I am curious as to if you continue to jerk off, because if you don’t…I have done what you are talking about all the time. I just build up and stop over and over again. But, I assume you are able to still jack off while you hold the kegel, which would be harder.

I hope being a multi-orgasmic male is not merely just holding in or clamping with a kegel when you are about to cum. That seems like its nothing special at all. I mean, women don’t have to clamp down or hold anything back when they come.

I think being a multi-orgasmic man is alot different than being a multi-orgasmic woman aside from the obvious differences. It seems like theres are more about enjoying pleasure where becoming one for a man is more about holding your ejacualtion back.

if some multi-men could shed some light on this, it would be good…….


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

this is different from "edging"

bigblackstick,

Yes, my experiment was done with me jacking off, rather than with my wife. I’ve done what you’ve done with “edging”, i.e. bringing myself close to cumming and then stopping to let the feelings subside. With edging, I bring myself close to orgasm, but stop when I think I will be ejaculating. There is no lingering orgasmic sensation involved in this technique. Eventually, after a period of time with “edging”(for hours, days, etc), I just allow myself to have one big regular orgasm.

What I’m doing now is quite different. Everything begins like “edging”, but then I allow myself to actually commence and experience the orgasm and then kegel extremely hard (imagining the PC muscle being pulled into the tailbone muscle area) as soon as the orgasm starts. At this point, I have stopped manually stimulating myself in order to maintain and concentrate on the strong kegel/squeeze and enjoy the ride. I then have the sensations of an orgasm without the jerking/pulsating feelings that occur when you cum. After, my dick still remains firm, and I can rub myself right back into full sensation without having any refractory period. I have a feeling of release like with a regular orgasm, but without the complete dissipation of energy that normally occurs.

That’s about it.

Peforeal

PEforreal

Now see the only qualm I have about that is, I think it still a variation of “edging” because you stop manually stimulating yourself. IF you continue to jerk off, don’t you think you would cum like normally, even if you are kegeling. The reason I bring this up is beacause it seems if it is truly an “orgasm” you can continue to jerk off while its happening.

So how will you apply this when you have sex with your wife…..”You will stop and lie very still?? Even if she moves, it might ruin it and force you to “come” naturally…..

Like I said, being multi- for a man seems more about stopping or delaying the process….


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

something new to try

bigblackstick,

You’ve given me food for thought and something new to try out in this technique. I was hesitant to keep on stimulating myself in order to be sure not to ejaculate. Now, I’ll try to push the envelope and experiment with continual stimulation while kegeling hard and attempting to hold off the ejaculation. I’ll keep you posted on what happens. It seems like I will really have to focus exceptionally hard to see what does or does not take place. The better I know my body, the better the benefit to my wife. But regardless of the outcome, I’m still jazzed about these personal “multiple orgasms”.

Peforeal

PE thanks man......

DO keep me posted, as this would be a good indication as whether this is just “edging” or you are actually achieving a full orgasm.

The ULTIMATE test would be to try it out with the wifey……….


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

interesting!

BBS:

I have been able to do “my version” of this while continuing to stroke. I started like he indicates, but slowly began to add very, very slow movements while holding the kegel and worked up to being able to keep moving a bit while doing it and even use it with a partner. Now, I DO definitely have to slow down a bit or “the dam will break”. You have to get used to it. I’m not certain, but I think the conditioning that goes on with this may be just as psychological is it is physical.

When I used to do this with a partner, I usually just grab some part of her anatomy and press myself very deeply inside her, remaining motionless like that for a minute or so while I kegel. She’ll squirm around a bit, but if you’re strong enough to hold her, or if she understands what you’re doing, the stimulation may be subtle enough to allow you to remain control. The advantage to this is that the contraction of your other muscles in pulling her towards you not only (usually) excites her, but it helps you to keep your kegel contracted as well. Plus, she will probably enjoy feeling your penis do the throbbing bit while buried to the base and beyond.

Like I said, I don’t usually do this much anymore. My wife gets upset when I put too much effort into sex rather than just relaxing and letting things happen as my body wishes them too. That woman is a gem. Another reason, and the reason I stated this as “my version”, is that my multi-orgasms weren’t as nice as normal ones. I prefer to just let it build up and do it in the traditional manner. However, I do NOT think this is simply edging. It’s like a half an orgasm. Check the same thread on PEforums for more of my story. I’ll be gone for about 2 weeks but will answer whatever I can when I return.

A warning: I had one girl accuse me of faking orgasm while doing this. Ha! Now that’s irony. Lol.

experimenting more

Pamdaga et al,

Today, I had another opportunity to experiment. With practice, I seem to be getting better at having a “bigger” orgasm while holding on to the strong kegel to prevent a full ejaculation. While these orgasms are not as large as a regular one, they are quite satisfying in their own way. The main thing I like is that after being stimulated by PE’ing, I can get a decent sexual release while still maintaining penis arousal sensitivity and the ability to get hard again. This allows me to continue my PE’ing even further, if I want to. Also, my dick stays much fuller for the whole day.

I’m trying to train myself to adapt to continuing stimulation as the orgasm begins and while I’m doing the strong kegel to prevent ejaculation. I think practice can make perfect. I’ll see.

Peforeal

Yes. What is the key to all of this is practise, practise, practise. You need to experiment during masterbation first. When you start the masturbating, have the goal of not doing it to get a kick out of it as you usually do, but rather to learn what your body is capable of. Don’t be hell bent on reaching climax.

I would just experiment with my dick and it’s capabilities when using the mind and all the different muscles around the penis and anus. Different strokes, different speeds, different flexing of muscles and different mental aproaches. Get to know your sexual body and it’s capabilities at a more intimate level.

Now as for the not making yourself cum when you climax, it is very possible to keep stroking as you climax. The tailbone aproach and the pc flexing aproach are two totally different things and are not to be confused as similar. They have different effects on your sexual capabilities altogether. It is very difficult for me to explain any better than I have already tried to in my last messages about them both.

The tailbone method can be very much amplified in it’s power when you use special breathing techniques. When they are used in a comboniation it is called the sexual ChiKong. The Chi stands for the same energy that the chinese use during Ti Chi. Chi is the key word. You are using the energy that the chinese call Chi. Call it what you like, but it is an energy which can be harnessed and directed and focused through correct breathing and mind whilst using the physical body as an intrument for a certain goal. In this case is would be for sexual power. The chinese and orientals have an ancient knowledge of mastering and controlling all forms of energy flowing through the body, including sexual energy.

Type ChiKong into your search engine and you will find places to visit. There is one site owned by a certain fella called Dr. Lin. He has very good advise on using such methods and also sells hormonal products for sexual health especially in later life or someone with sexual problems. I would’nt suggest buying anything unless you have serious problem with something, but the free information about sexual ChiKong is very valuable. Search all different sites and maybe buy a book on it.

Eduacate yourselves. Then experiment, experiment, experiment and practise, practise, practise. It DOES work.


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gg

I mentioned that “pinching” method to my husband who wanted to try it. Unfortunately I was in the way so he couldn’t do it before he ejaculated. Is this something you can only do while masturbating? How do you pinch this section between your balls and butt (excuse my loose terms) if someone’s body or head is in the way? Or should he do it as you described…basically practice while masturbating until his body someone adapts.


You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.

Zig Ziglar

I am confused as to whether you are talking about that pinch these other guys are talking about to not ejaculate when they cum or whether you are talking about the pinching I do on my glans for extra sexual excitement. If you want to know about this non ejaculation pinch thing, I am not the man to ask because I have never needed to pinch inorder not to cum because I can do it automaticly already. Ask someone else about that anna my friend. Check back amongst the messages to see who talked about that method and ask them.


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.

gg

okee dokee…I must have read too much at one time that day and fused all the messages together. But thanks anyway.


You don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great.

Zig Ziglar

I just tried the technique. I squeezed hard but i missed a few drops (they came out). My orgasm was quite weak and aaafter that i couldnt get a hardon again :( (

You are having a retrograde ejaculation —- the cum is going into your bladder like Avocet8 said. You are pressing down and clamping off the urethra, so the pressure of the fliud has to go somewhere and that somewhere is back into your bladder. To confirm this, let go after just a second or so, and let it dribble out or milk it out. So, it goes instead of cums! I have found I can experience up to seven orgasims a day this way — useful when off on a businss trip!

This method may not actually prevent cum from being released, but instead may lead to retro-ejaculation (ejaculation into the bladder). Is it harmful? Opinions appear to be divided, but my personal feeling is that one is probably no worse off for doing it.

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