My Situation with this girl.

>>What does the “trying too hard” and the “looking like it” mean?>>

In general it means try not to appear “needy” or desparate.

Perhaps she’s a lesbian and assumed you knew it?

This isn’t the off the cuff “oh she must be a lesbian” answer, but rather lesbians do exist in our society, so the chance is real…

I doubt it very much.
Here is a self-quote from this thread that explains why;

But come to think of it she is a little “too close” to her best friend and I have never seen or heard about them having boyfriends. Hmm…
Now you’ve got me thinking RB!

I’m gonna make myself some coffee now.

There are a lot of attractive women out there, man. You could look at porn, regular magazines, TV, movies, and outside in society every day and you’ll never see them all. I know how it feels when you’re rejected by the one you actually like. If she wasn’t chipper right away, and had to think about it, and still said no, then forget her, man. If you’re in school, I’m sure there’s a shitload of fine chicks that would date you. Being a “slut” seems to be “in” these days, and you should have no problem finding another chick who’s hot to party. I mean, isn’t it the “college” thing to do?

Don’t be her friend. Men and women can’t be friends, they were’nt meant to be friends. Your friends are your broes… and it’s “broes before hoes”. Women friends are just girls you haven’t fucked yet. Period.

Trust me, dude… there is nothing worse than being some chick’s emotional tampon. Move on. Make your dick bigger. Work on yourself. Become. They’ll notice.

>>there is nothing worse than being some chick’s emotional tampon. >>

A pretty brutal but apt description of the “friend mode”.

Prickle, I think this is very bad advice. It’s not emasculating yourself and it’s not being an emotional tampon, it’s being what they also need when they need it. Being a real friend without the expectation of something physical can have magical effects on them. But they can also sense your motivations so if you’re not being real, or being a doormat then you can pretty much count on getting the reaction you sound like you’ve been getting. I’m talking real sincerity and take it to your grave loyalty.

I think I am hard coded for women because my lady friends have always far outnumbered my male ones. I prefer the company of women to men and I will put my life on the line with a woman. I regularly skydive and ride sportbikes with only women. If I were to rob a bank, I know the woman I would only choose to do it with. That is how I treat women and I know the results that have come back to me because of it.

I’m no young pup at 44 years old, and have never had to work to seduce a woman. They give themselves freely to me because that is what they want. There are girls from 25+ years in my past who have called me to tell me that I was the best they ever had. It had nothing to do with the size of my cock. I’m bigger now at nearly 8” and it still doesn’t matter.

One of the most lovely and intelligent women I have ever known told me after 20 years that I am still the love of her life. That no one has ever melted her down as I do and she would fight someone to the death for me. She may have come to me as an intellectual friend but she left as a starry eyed girl who offered me the world.

I don’t mean this to sound arrogant as I know it comes across because I am actually quite humble. I am sure that others on this board will back me up on this with their own experiences. I just want you to understand, Prickle, that when you bring the attitude with you that you bring on this board, women will sense and understand that about you. You will get yourself caught in a a cycle of despair with women because you keep doing the same things over and over and then respond as you do on here. If you come to a real woman with the attitude that you bring here, you are going to have nothing but heartache from them. I’ve seen it happen with friends since I was a kid.

Bring them confidence and charisma and they will give themselves to you. And being something as simple as a friend can make a lot of difference…maybe not all at once, maybe not with every woman, but it will in the end.

It all depends on what you want, tho. If you just want them to think of you as the one with the big dick, that’s fine too….but don’t be surprised if they also think of you as the biggest prick they ever knew.

Vector8

See.. but you’re still after the pussy, right? Then you’re not her friend really, Max. I’ve been the “friend” and I’ve been the “lover” and I’ve come to realize that women and men cannot really be friends, so to speak. It’s just a different kind of thing than friendship between men. As long as sexual tension exists for either person, true friendship can never be. Once that sexual tension is gone, or never was there, then you can perhaps see the woman for the person she is and not just an orifice with legs.

Honestly, I find most women to be fair-weather friends, but I guess I’ve been encountering the wrong women.

Prickle, you’ve kept is simple and I would just about have to agree with you.
Although MadMax8 pointed out some good things as in that you must be confident and charasmatic.

A question for MadMax8 though,
I your opinion do you say it’s a good idea to pursue this girl any further? Because that’s the message i’m getting from your post.

I too do believe that MadMax8 is not really being thier friends but rather, this “friends” thing he talks about is ‘another lane to the hoop’ so to say, and wherther you take Prickle’s asvice and just go for pussy by ‘knocking on the front door’ or use MadMax8’s method of ‘jumping over the back fence’ in the end it’s all for the pussy. (we are men after all guys ;) )

No need to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing. That method will take too long and you’ll have to sit up many a night listening to your “friend” complain about the guy who actually is getting the pussy, and you still might not get it.

Be direct. Tell ‘em what you want so there’s no mistakes or misunderstandings about what kind of relationship you seek… unless you enjoy being a dick in a glass case.

Besides, men are simple creatures. We don’t ask for much. You can figure men out pretty easily. Women, on the other hand, you can never figure out. Half the time, they don’t even know what they want…but one hundred percent of the time it pertains only to themselves. Men may do cruel, evil things.. but they live by principals. Women have no such principals. They are ruled strictly by what they feel at any given time and can change at the drop of a hat, and only if it will put a situation back into their advantage. To put it plainly, they are out for themselves. So beware! Be warned! The only thing more cruel and destructive than a boy is a girl. They do not live in a world ruled by logic, as men do. They are servants of whim, and very unpredictable until you learn their patterns..and even those are irratic at best.

It sounds like misogyny, but it is solid fact. Men can have the upper hand if they choose. A woman’s only power on this Earth is man’s desire… and feminism has fucked their heads up and made them think that being a “mere woman” is something beneath… when in fact, when a woman knows how to be a woman, they can have anything they desire.

Sorry for the obscure ranting.

Prickle, good post. From the experiences I’ve had, I have to agree. I’ve always had female friends, but they’ve been just as you describe in your post,
“…They are ruled strictly by what they feel at any given time and can change at the drop of a hat, and only if it will put a situation back into their advantage…”
Just look at their magazines (lets say Woman’s Day). No wonder so many of them are confused… half the magazine says lose weight, the other half says eat these cakes and whatnot. Seriously, have a look next time you’re at the newsagents and you’ll see what I mean. :\

Cheers
BananaMan

p.s. - I’m not saying *all* women are like this, just most of the ones I’ve encountered.

Prickle said:

“It sounds like misogyny, but it is solid fact. Men can have the upper hand if they choose. A woman’s only power on this Earth is man’s desire… and feminism has fucked their heads up and made them think that being a “mere woman” is something beneath… when in fact, when a woman knows how to be a woman, they can have anything they desire.”

Never a truer word has been spoken… :D

BananaMan

Prickle has hit the nail one the head there.

I think it’s a bit like defending Jordan in a game.
Don’t get too close or he’ll roll right off and get past you.
And don’t give him too much room or he’ll shoot right over your head.
He goes for a shot,you jump, but it’s a pump fake!, now he’s already past you and you’re in the air looking stupid.

An impossible task that needs the right balance of reacting to things as they happen and anticipating with reservation for alternative moves also.

If a Country was ever to employ a strategy akin to a woman’s style of conducting thier lives, then they would be almost unstopable given adequate ammo. (good looks etc.)

Thier defenses are always changing and they are shapeshifters
Very hard to aim at something when the target is always moving without pattern.

Well I appreciate all the feedback and it looks like this had come to a close.

It seems like the overwhelming majority think I should cut my emotional losses and move on.

I do wonder if there is anyone who still thinks I have a chance though?
Or have those people changed thier original opinions?

See Ya!
Cascade.

I have never read anything more sexist and insulting to women before in my life.

I did read this thread. You may be a man & it may be all about pussy.

But women have what you want & with the higher than though attitude your not going to get any.

Men are not superior to women except in their own minds. To think that you are just shows that you don’t have a woman.
You wont have much of a chance of getting one either thinking that way.
The main reason I say this is because women do not share your egotistical views. We don’t think your superior just because your men.
If you haven’t given us a reason to admire & look up to you then we don’t. Just being male is not a good reason to think of you as a superior being.

You may think your better in your own mind but in reality thats the only place that you are.
I am not better than anybody else. But I am damn sure just as good.

Better get used to magazines because then you can be superior all you want with those gals.