My question regarding Ki, Tantra, Sexual Energy, etc...

I know there are a few threads here about “lasting longer” and most of the suggestions for this is to practice kegels and strengthening the pc/bc muscle. For me, this does absolutely nothing. Clamping down on the PC muscle only stops the ejaculation process but does nothing for the orgasm. Upon squeezing the PC muscle, taking a break/breather, then resuming intercourse, a few moments later the orgasm comes right back. I repeat this many times and honestly its annoying. If this is what being multi orgasmic for a male is like, I dont want it. Id rather have one orgasm and ejaculate 30 minutes after intercourse than the feeling of having to go, but not doing it every 3-5 minutes. Im wondering if these practices like Ki, Tantra, etc… helps to achieve this? When people mention moving the sexual energy, full body orgasms, orgasms w/o ejaculating, is it different from what Ive described above. Are you still having to stop before ejaculating and interupt intercourse so that you dont go or does moving this energy allow you to continue to make love w/o having to stop? Could someone with experience please explain this?

Dealing with this is not easy. If it was then everyone would master it. Like PE, it appears like it’s an ongoing process that may take a while to master and then keep proficient at.

I studied Ki in my youth and am picking it back up. Ki may help if you develop the mental skills to control you responses. I personally don’t think it will be that effective, but others may believe otherwise. One thing’s for certain, Ki isn’t a pill you can take and it’s not something you can cram for like a test. It’ll take time to develop Ki skills, much less skills great enough to overcome such a powerful drive.

A part of Tantric and Tao practice is to use the PC/BC muscle to delay an orgasm, not to have dry ones repeatedly (although that’s fine too). The reason for your discomfort is you aren’t catching the orgasm at the right point to have a dry one, but merely inhibit the pending one at the last moment. Sure enough, it’ll come back pretty quick. I’m still learning to master this myself but recently successfully did it twice and while the orgasm wasn’t as intense as a typical ejaculatory one, was quite pleasant (the difference probably has more to do with my mastering the skills than it being inferior). So much for dry orgasms.

Here’s a post I made recently: Johanson - Multiple orgasms without ejaculation

I’m hardly the expert, having just recently managed dry orgasm and I’ve only using the methods in the above referenced post for a relatively short period of time. However, I’ve seen such gains as to know it works and isn’t a painful undertaking. My fiance’ actually expressed concern, after recent utilization of these methods, that I might want to try some kind of marathon sessions - something she finds somewhat scary. I wouldn’t, as the purpose of this is to better please her. However, it’s a clear indicator that it works!

Finally, even if it was always as you experience, I’d do it anyway in the interest of satisfying my lady.

Study, practice, and more reflection are the only ways to succeed at your goal. They are certainly the foundation of being effective at most anything, especially Ki, Tantra, and Tao.

As Mr. Happy put it here: Multiple orgasms without ejaculation "It’s totally worth it. And it is easy to master, provided that you understand mastery comes with time, patience, and a willingness to fail."

In what other undertaking can failure be so pleasant?

At what point should I be stopping? Right before I feel the urge to “go”, I pull out, breathe, wait and resume. When Im on top the feeling returns much quicker. I can recall a few times with her on top, that after going through the above process a few times, the feeling subsided for a much longer time. Its like it appeared several times within a few minutes then suddenly I no longer had the urge to “go” but I can never achieve this with me on top.

I’ll have to read your post and see what it is youre doing. If what Im describing is being multi orgasmic, its also annoying to have to continue stopping so often. Im hoping there is a way to overcome this after much research and advice.

Thanks!