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Kegel - the secret revealed

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
I haven’t read through all the pages so if already covered my apologies.

I found an old yoga book that recommends getting in down facing dog - when in that position and I tense “down there” it really grips my IC muscle and nothing else. It is a very pleasant sensation. I will try adding the excerpt from the book as attachment to this post. Like many others I thought I was previously doing kegels but seemed to be just adding tension to my entire pelvic region. For those who feel similar and now have the sensation of chronic pelvic tension try sitz baths and also experiment with doing them alternated hot and cold.

Good luck.

Well, looks like I’m going to try this out.
Thanks, NicholasVan

Thanks and good luck Phil. I mentioned in my previous post the wrong name for the yoga position - it is actually modified cat pose.

Originally Posted by Captainphil
Found another great description on reddit of how to find and execute IC muscle contractions. I hope it’s okay to post this link..
https://www.goo gle.com/amp/s/a … y_peed_and_low/

Very interesting!

I tried it now at work and really feel the exhaustion in the area of the base of my penis. I don’t fell that when doing hard kegels.
I’m going to try this a couple of weeks.

Any of you noticed progress with this?

I have an issue where my penis is very light when flaccid (as if it’s filled with air and not blood) and have lost pretty much most of my sensation down there. Also, when I kegal in a flaccid state, it dosnt move at all.
This was caused strictly from medication I was given at a doctor’s visit. I have had horrible symptoms like cold penis, no erections, white penis head, no morning wood etc. A lot of that subsided but I still remain with the numbness/ lack of sensation and a very light and “air-like” flaccid penis. This obviously all has caused for my erection quality to go down dramatically.

I’ve been dealing with this or years and have seen multiple urologists. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gentle Kegel Helped Me Once I Believe It Will Again.

Hello, I came across kegel exercises when I damaged my lower back. My doctor sent me on a Pilates course at my local hospital. After my nightly exercises (including keggel). I noticed my penis had more frequent erections, was harder, and slightly larger.

Back then I was 24 years old and my girlfriend at the time had to get use to more lengthy episodes in the bedroom. (She did not take much persuading). The more sex I had, accompanied with a little kegel exercises. (Average about 1 session every other day). The larger my penis seem to grow. It took about 3 years before I noticed my penis had never been so thick and long. It really was bigger then I could have imagined it could ever be. (Gained about 10 percent in meat).

Now I am 45. The gains I made back then we’re permanent.

Unfortunately, I recently got Peyronie’s disease (a bent damaged penis. (Due to penile injury during sex.)) At its worse the bend was 45 degrees. (No chance of having sex). Have been doing gentle penile stretches with a penis pump. Have managed to reduce the bend to 15 degrees. But have lost girth and length. Its like I’m 15 year old again.

However, am not in despair. I believe my secret weapon: kegel, is helping. Along with penis pumping. (Jelqing will begin when the angulation has corrected. To prevent more damage)

That’s my story with kegel. Kegel is a positive in my life. As long as you don’t over do it. Eat healthy, and have a girlfriend who does not mind getting use to having more sex.


Last edited by Nazman : 04-28-2020 at . Reason: Improve details

I’ve always been confused by kegels in that I never know if I’m doing it right.

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Copy/paste from reddit

" Ischiocavernosus (IC muscle) cured my PE,ED and low libido
Hi there. Want to get this out to as many desperate people out there as possible. So I found this subreddit and decided to copy my post here aswell. Here is my post from erectiledysfunction subreddit:

"I am here to help as many guys out there as possible. What I am doing fixes the problems for me. It may or may not help you aswell. But you should try out my suggestions and will find out on day 1, if you have this problem or not.

Do you also have lifelong ED or partial ED, PE and bad erection angle? Have you tried kegels bit they did not help in the long run? Do you always tense part of your pelvic floor during masturbation and your problems got slowly worse during the last years or decades.

You may have the same issue that I have! If that is the case, there is an easy fix if you know exactly what to focus on. You have to find your IC muscle, which may be very difficult the first 2-3 times!

Why are Kegels not helping me or maybe you? => if you have a muscle dysbalance in the pelvic floor, your IC muscle may be extremely weak. It is keeping the blood inside the penis, thus holding erection,and increases erection angle. You PC and BC muscles are probably so strong, that they partly take over the work for the IC… BUT THEY DO A VERY BAD JOB! If you kegel and have a very low muscle tone of the IC ( i talk from my experience solely) it is nearly impossible to flex it. The IC gets trained first a little, but the PC and BC are alway getting much more stonger. The result: Erection quality first increases in first week, then stays the same and keeps decreasing again.

What I had to do: Find the IC muscle and isolate it. Relax the BC and PC. they already are overly strong, so no more regular kegels.

How I found it: If you flex the IC muscle, the penis twitches or is pulled inwards slightly. When erect or partially erect, the IC makes the penis jump up. But beware! If you flex more, the weak IC muscle does not get flexed more. Instead you only increase the tension in the BC muscle and you will only THINK that you flex the IC stronger. It is very very difficult to differentiate these two muscles because they are so close to each other. Especially when the muscle is weak, you will not know the sensation of flexed IC. What I did was doing something like a mini kegel. Only tighten your pelvic floor so ridiculessly weak, that you only feel a slight sensation beside or directly on top of your penis base, where it comes out of the pelvis. Dont tense so hard, that you feel your pelvic floor moving. Keep the very slight tension. You may think that you only imagine some feeling above your penis when holding the weak tension. This is because the IC is so weak, that you dont even register it flexing. I doubted that I flexed any muscle at all, until that happened: If you keep the tension around 30-40 seconds, your penis may shake uncontrollably in- and outwards when the IC becomes weak.

Congratulation. You just found your IC maybe for the very first time. see how ridiculessly weak it is? If you did what I wrote and experienced just the same, this is the muscle that you have to focus on!

What happened to me on day 1: uncontrollable hard erection for the very first time after doing 5 minutes of IC Flexing. I did not even have ro flex the pelvic floor. It simply stood by itself and was harder and fleshier at the same time…. BINGO! found you, lazy "mothafucka" muscle ;-). If the same applies to you, you will probably register sudden improvement within only a few minutes after these "experiment"! It is really a heureca moment… And it made me literally cry out of joy at that moment.

Afterwards I did a lot of tests the next days to see what helps. The improvements I mention are kicking in DIRECTLY after training.. Not hours, but minutes! I did only 1 of these tests on one day, 2 days apart just to ve sure.

IC training only: VERY BIG IMPROVEMENT

Reverse kegel only: SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT

RK + IC training: BEST IMPROVEMENT!

KEGEL training: NO IMPROVEMENT AT ALL

So reverse kegel helped me quite a bit. But after several tests it is clear that my weak IC muscle is the primary reason. It is also clear to me that this muscle became so "hidden" to me, that i nearly never used it…. So it had to become weaker. For the first time of my life I feel this sensation of the IC flexing. You will start to feel it after a training session, when the muscle gets tired. Also after several days of training it gets better and you can really pull your penis inwards srongly.

If your IC gets stronger, you can train with an erection by letting the penis jump (try to not flex the BC muscle, which always happens when you try to flex too strongly) . Also to increase training effect, you can apply resistance by slightly pushing the penis down against the IC flexion. If you lose erection, try to get it up again and repeat. I cannot recommend any training time, but for tge beginning a couple of minutes seem to be enough. You will feel it when this muscle gets worn out and have to decide yourself when to stop.

I was at a business trip in france when I found this out. Trained for 3 weeks. When I came back to my wife, I had so incredible sex… My wife asked me what the hell happened during my busibess trip. She thought that I cheated her. When I told her, she asked me to definetely keep on training :-) . I am still in recovery but every weak the problem gets better. I still cant believe that after all these years I managed to really pull it off… Find that damn reason for my problems.

Thank you, community. Also i want to thank my wife from the bottom of my heart for her warmth and support. She did stay with me although I was a weak 30 seconds man. Find someone that really loves you like my wife does me. Also thanks Paris… You are a beautiful town.

And i dont want to thank the urologists that kept me hanging (literally) ;-) ""

Original thread : https://www.red dit.com/r/PIED/ … y_peed_and_low/

Hi all

Day before yesterday I was reading what exactly “the goat” posted. Thanks dude!

Hi all
As like TAOISM, our Indians follow TANTRA. There is some Tantra practitioners (SADHU or YOGI) pull the car by their penis. They train in such a way the penis used as our hand to pull something.

Plz go through this PDF file, some points about how to train all BC, PC and IC muscles

http://www.tant racure.com/Tant … lvicMuscles.pdf

Thank you

New Kegels?

Hi All,

I haven’t been on the forums for a very long time. To preface, I am mid 50’s and been diabetic 40+ years. In my 30’s experienced ed after 1st divorce. I would have nocturnal erections occasionally and at odd times so went to Dr. He was no help other than throw pills at me and basically cock ring without wanting details or tests(probably because I’m diabetic). Making matters worse, my current wife isn’t into sex much so got addicted to porn.

I started doing 3 things and probably all 3 have benefited me personally to the point where I have no ed and horny way too much. Quit porn 3 weeks ago. Started about 1. 5 weeks ago using tens unit with anal plug that does the contractions although I do change settings occasionally. The final thing I did which I believe has really helped is called kegelise(an app I stumbled on via YouTube). This I’m sure isn’t revolutionary or new. There is a small fee after downloading from play store and I figured it would be BS. I bought it a few months back and tried it some but either wasn’t paying attention or not doing correctly. I just forgot about it until recently. I have done only a few days(they say can take weeks to months) and I got extremely horny, hard and ended up with dry prostate organism although some did come out.

I now know where all these muscles are you guys mention and how to isolate(can’t pronounce them). Most of what they teach you is breathing exercises(pelvic breathing). Besides getting erections easily, being horny way too much, I have noticed fuller and longer flaccid hang like a very long time ago. I now want to start back into PE again. Now what to do about my wife.

If you do get this program, it has some repetition since there are several programs and can be hard to follow at 1st(which is probably why I didn’t stick with it at 1st). There may be similar regiments on this site as well but going through a bunch of posts to see could take some time.

Rodman, you mention an app called “kegelise,” which I just searched for in the Google Play, and could not find.

Is that a mis-spelling perhaps?

You also mentioned using a tens unit with an anal plug. Can you elaborate on what you actually did that was helpful?

Thanks —


7.8 x 5.4 (goal by November 1, 2020)

Conclusion: If I lift my cock (with towel or not whatever) and BC has 0 movement (between arse and crotch), as well as the PC, THEN I’m working my IC. Right?

Originally Posted by Don Logan
I found it. Replace the XX with tt:
HXXps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eng.kegelise&hl=en_US

Thanks for this. I want to start a new Kegal routine for 2021

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