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It takes me way too long to cum!

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I don’t think some of you understand, it takes 15-20 minutes by myself even.

It’s not all that important to me anymore any way (although thanks Twat, Chobbs and Stagestop I will use your ideas to get some sensitivity) because I just did some new measurements and I am very pleased with my new length gains to say the least.


Nov '08: 6.5" BPEL X 4.3" MSEG / 4.83" Base Girth.... 4.565" AVG EG Based on 2 measurements

Nov '09: 7.0" BPEL (6.3" NBPEL) X 4.5" MSEG / 4.9" Base Girth.... 4.59" AVG EG Based on 3 measurements ~~~~~~~~~ Erect gains to date 1.55" X .4"

>>> Caboose\\'s Penis Enlargement Guide <<<

I’ve got the same problem. I wanted to start a new thread with this, but am too new it seems. Anyway, here’s my situation:

I’ve been in a long-distance relationship for about 6 months now. I visit her every 2 months, and each visit I go nuts over the anticipation of having sex with her, but then when I do I have an incredible amount of trouble ejaculating. We’ve had sex 5-6 times each visit, but I’ve only cum once. I fear my dick isn’t sensitive enough/has gotten conditioned to get off from solely from masturbation. So I want to sensitize it/recondition it.

The past few days I’ve done a fair amount of research around Thundersplace and elsewhere on the internet and here’s my plan:

DRUGS
I’m going to start taking daily:

5000 mg of fish oil
250mg of Niacin daily to boost my histamines
25mg of DHEA a day boost testosterone, improve my testosterone/estrogen ratio
500mg of L-Arginine

I’m also going to start eating more cruciferous vegetables for their beneficial effects on testosterone.

For now at least, I’m decided against taking DIM/I3C supplements because of an article I read calling into question their effectiveness, and which cites a study indicating it can actually lower testosterone

Other drugs I’ve come across but are undecided about are:
Over the counter: Chrysin, Maca, tongkat ali (all for testosterone); Lecithin
Prescription: Viagra, Arimidex (for test/est ratio)

I currently take Celexa and Propecia. Celexa is an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety drug, and I’m well aware it could inhibit erections and ejaculation. This has probably had an effect on me, and I’m planning on cutting back on this at the least. I’m sure it doesn’t account for all the problem however, as I had issues with penis sensitivity way before I started taking it.

I know Propecia can also adversely affect your libido. So I might stop taking it as well, though it’d be nice to not have to—I’d like to keep what I have left of my hair!

ACTIONS

I also plan on:

-Doing 500 kegels a day
-Buying a fleshlight and masturbating exclusively with that from now on. I’m also go to start to masturbate like I’m having sex—-so on the fleshlight and thrusting using my body, rather than sitting back in a chair using my hands. In know there’s the stamina unit you have a problem with premature ejaculation, but which one would be best for the opposite?
-I hear people that restore their foreskin gain back a great deal of sensitivity. I’m not sure if I want to go quite this far yet, but was considering wrapping my penis in some way, particularly when going jogging, etc. I was just thinking gauze, but is there a better solution—is there one that might simulate the foreskin a little better—perhaps do a better job at not letting the head dry out?

I am determined to rectify this situation by the time of the next visit (mid-summer)! I love this girl and want to spend my life with her, but can tell she’s get very concerned about my sexual problems.

Any comments? Any further suggestions? I’d greatly appreciate any help!

Originally Posted by turbocool2004
-I hear people that restore their foreskin gain back a great deal of sensitivity. I’m not sure if I want to go quite this far yet, but was considering wrapping my penis in some way, particularly when going jogging, etc. I was just thinking gauze, but is there a better solution—is there one that might simulate the foreskin a little better—perhaps do a better job at not letting the head dry out?


The easiest thing to do in this regard is to simply cross tape. The most accessible means of doing so is to simply use a single band-aid. Pull the skin up over your glans (if you have enough to do so), apply the top on the top side, so that the non-sticky middle square will end up at your opening, and pull the band-aid over the top affixing it to the bottom side. A note about increasing glans sensitivity though … if you progress too far in dekeratinizing it can be quite uncomfortable when you are not covered. Also you will look very “stumpy” when you do this unless you have quite a bit of skin, as the penis has to be pushed back towards the body some, so be prepared.

There are numerous other things you can use (baby bottle nipples) or devices you can buy to help you remain covered as well. One that many people use which you may want to check out is the Your-Skin-Cone (tlctugger.com).

Hope the info helps.

- Chris

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1. Histadelia Means HIGH HISTAMINE

Histadelic depressives have a particular imbalanced amino-acid cycle, which results in low levels of serotonin and elevated histamine. Histadelics often exhibit obsessive-compulsive tendencies, perfectionism, seasonal allergies, easy tears, high libido, and headaches. They have addictive tendencies with a high incidence of alcoholism, drug abuse, anorexia, and bulimia. They often are diagnosed with seasonal affective disorder which is most serious during Fall and Winter. The decisive chemical test for this condition is whole blood histamine. We treat histadelia with a biochemical one-two punch in which (1) calcium is given to release excess histamine from tissues into the bloodstream, and (2) methionine is provided to add a methy group to blood histamine and hasten its exit from the body. With good compliance, improvement is usually noted in 4-8 weeks with about 3-6 months needed to correct this chemical imbalance.

So, if I wanted lower histamine levels, I would take methionine, is that correct TT?

Dude I have a huge problem coming too. I can only come in some positions that we have sex in. I can never come when she’s on top. I can never come when she’s giving me head.

Originally Posted by refresh9

It’s nerves, f this histamine nonsense. New girl? = Nerves. Thats it.

That’s just your opinion. You don’t know what the truth is. No need to disparage another member’s contribution.

Originally Posted by justlearning
Dude I have a huge problem coming too. I can only come in some positions that we have sex in. I can never come when she’s on top. I can never come when she’s giving me head.

Yeah I could only do it so far when laying side by side. It feels tighter that way for some reason. Can’t with her on top; can’t in missionary—though I’ve been meaning to try that with her legs crossed and maybe that’ll make a difference.

Originally Posted by refresh9
It’s nerves, f this histamine nonsense. New girl? = Nerves. Thats it.


People are electro-mechanical machines. If a car runs funny is its nerves? Perhaps in a large metaconcept kind of way, but we shall not play semantic games right this second. Nothing really exists in a vacuum so to say.

I am new to this, so any help or clarifications is welcome. But at least attempt to have your Brain trust Merit badge on. But in a small bus logic kind of way, you are semi-correct in that nerves as the commoners speak of, is really anxiety. But you don’t catch anxiety from sitting on a dirty toilet seat, no matter what your mom said to you in third grade.;)

Low histamine people (Histapenia) often exhibit a constant visible level of anxiety, of which is apparent to all who see him or her. High histamine (Histadelia) has an internal anxiety which often manifests as an OCD.

Pure L-Histidine

L-Histidine is an essential amino acid, which converts to histamine, a powerful blood vessel dilator, involved in gastric acid secretions and neurotransmission in the central nervous systems. It is also related to circadian rhythms and sexual arousal and orgasmic function in women. Low levels of L- Histidine have been associated with Rheumatoid Arthritis, and anemia.

RECOMMENDED TO ENHANCE STRUCTURE & FUNCTION RELATING TO:

* Functioning as a precursor to histamine
* Sexual arousal and orgasmic function
* Rheumatoid Arthritis
* Precursor to Carnosine and Anserine
* Gastric acid secretions to aid digestion
* Circadian rhythms
* Neuronal health and function
* Production of red and white blood cells

WHAT IS L-HISTIDINE?
L-Histidine is an essential amino acid important for growth and repair of tissues. It is necessary for the maintenance of myelin sheaths, which protect nerve cells, and the production of red and white blood cells. It is the precursor for histamine, and B-6, niacin, and Vitamin C are necessary for proper metabolism. It is also a precursor for Carnosine and Anserine. Histidine acts as an antioxidant protecting against radiation damage by helping to remove heavy metals from the body. It stimulates the secretion of gastric juices; therefore helping with digestion. Low levels have been associated with decreased hemoglobin and hematocrit, as well as those with Rheumatoid Arthritis. Deficiencies are also noted in Dysbiosis (an imbalance of intestinal flora) and anemia, and low levels may also attribute to nerve deafness. Excessive levels have been associated with psychological disorders such as schizophrenia and high levels are noted during pregnancy. In the diet, it is found in rice, wheat and rye.

WHAT IS HISTAMINE?
Histamine is a molecule that is a potent vessel dilator, important for sexual arousal and orgasm in women. It also acts as a neurotransmitter having an effect on the nervous system, and as a stimulator to the secretion of pepsin and hydrochloric acid, it is important for digestion. Several studies indicate that the histamininergic neurotransmitter system may be a regulator of circadian rhythms that function in the sleep and wakefulness cycle. Since L-Histidine is the precursor for histamine, deficiencies effect the histamine levels. When allergens are present, however, histamine is released from the mast cells causing inflammation, fluid production and possibly hives. (Antihistamines have been recommended for allergic problems.)

SEXUAL AROUSAL and FUNCTION

* Histidine is involved in the function of the thalamus and hypothalamus glands, and orgasm is triggered when histamine is released from the mast cells in the genitals. Histamine also causes the sexual flush that occurs during arousal. Many women fail to achieve sexual pleasure and orgasm, and often other treatments including psychotherapy may be unsuccessful. This problem may be a result of a biochemical imbalance, since sufficient histamine must be present in order to trigger an orgasm. Deficiencies of L-Histidine will effect histamine levels.
* Supplementing with L-Histidine will increase histamine levels as proved by Carl Pfeiffer, M.D., and Ph.D. in his research on non-orgasmic women. He administered doses of 500mg. of L-Histidine (1) before each meal (for a total of 3 per day) restoring sexual pleasure in women. (He also helped women who had irregular periods become regular by giving doses of 4g. per day).

* Dr. Pfeiffer noted that males who had excessive L-Histidine levels had the problem of premature ejaculation. He gave these men supplementation of 500 mg. of L-Methionine along with 500 mg. of magnesium and 50mg. of vitamin B6. This helped normalize the levels of Histidine, and alleviated the problem of premature ejaculation. Those taking L-Methionine should also take a B complex with folic acid to help prevent excessive homocysteine levels. (Take 2 Montiff B Complete daily - 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening to get sufficient folic acid and B 6.).

RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS
Low L-Histidine levels have been noted with those who have Rheumatoid Arthritis. This may contribute to the pathogenesis of this condition by causing hyaluronate-augmented formation of aggregated synovial fluid gamma globulin. The gamma globulin aggregation thus causes the inflammatory and rheumatoid factors. Supplementation of L-Histidine may be helpful in some cases, although not always successful. In one double-blind study, patients were given 4.5 g daily. After 30 weeks some benefits were noted in those who had a long history of the disease.

1. REFERENCES: Maeda, K, Taniguchi H, Butterfield et al (First Dept. of Internal Med., Tohuku Univ School of Med.) "Induction of L-histidine Decarboxylase in a Human Mast Cell Line", Exp. Hematol, 1998.
2. Tuomisto, Leena, "Modifying Effects of Histamine on Circadian Rhythms and Neuronal Excitability", INABIS, 98.
3. Pheiffer, Carl, MD, PhD, Mental and Elemental Nutrients, Keats Publishing, 1981.
4. Gerber, D., and Gerber M, (Dept. of Med. - New York State Med. Center and Kings County Hospital), " Specificity of Low Free Sodium Histidine Concentration for Rheumatoid Arthritis", J. Chron. Dis., 1977.
5. Pinals, R. et al, "Treatment of RA with L-Histidine", J. of Rheumatology, 1977.
6. Tyson, Don, Amino Acids Metabolism and Analysis - Interpretation Guide, Aatron Med. Services, 1989.
7. Balch, James, MD, and Phyllis Balch, CNC, Prescription for Nutritional Healing, Avery Pub., 1997.
http://www.amin oacidpower.com/ … products_id=254


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

So what my hypothesis is:
If women can be fixed for LOW levels of Histamine, why not men? A woman who INCREDIBLY easily climaxes (due to high histamine) doesn’t appear to have any issue like a man does of being a minute man. So why the divide on the sexes there in the opposite directions? Of course there is a refractory period in dudes and such fun to account for, while she just asks for another refill at the bar.

We do know for a FACT, that SSRIs (crazy pills) have long been written by your local flesh mechanic, to easy any minute man problems. Coincidently, to the peanut galleries delight, it seems to lower the histamine response a bit and ease anxiety too.

So histamine looks to have a heavy UNKNOWN process in all of this. We can take serious educated guesses. There must be a semi-ideal or normal range of histamine levels to receive the most benefit from.

Thoughts, ideas?


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

I wish I had this problem

Is this a problem? Most men are frustrated from cumming too quickly.
I have the same “problem” for various reasons, but I kind of like it. I have stamina, I can go for hours, and my gf loves it.
If I really feel that it’s time to cum, I stimulate myself, because I’m the expert on me, and my gf plays with my nipples maybe, and it doesn’t take too long before I can cum where ever I want to..

I prefer cumming late over cumming too quickly. It’s important not to stress it, not show her that it’s a problem. If it’s all over your face that “Help, I can’t cum!!”, well, that’s not good. It could be a turn- off..

Be the MAN, you don’t even have to cum every time, do you? If she’s satisfied, you had a good time together, well that’s good, right?
To me it’s more important that my gf gets pleasure. I’m having a great time anyway, even if I don’t cum. Just to experience my gf’s journey towards an orgasm is fulfilling to me.

Ahund


January 2009: BPEL: 8.6" EG: 5.7"

Goal for 2009: BPEL: 8.75" EG: 6"

Ultimate goal: BPEL: 9" EG: 6.5"

Ahund: I would like to get to where your at. I have been a premature ejaculator for 5 years and only over the last year have I learnt techniques to overcome it such as kegels. My PC muscle is strong now however I am not sexually active and do not edge much. I see SSRI’s as a last resort too. Curious to know what got you to your stage.

Originally Posted by slanker
Ahund: I would like to get to where your at. I have been a premature ejaculator for 5 years and only over the last year have I learnt techniques to overcome it such as kegels. My PC muscle is strong now however I am not sexually active and do not edge much. I see SSRI’s as a last resort too. Curious to know what got you to your stage.

Slanker,
I think it has something to do with PE, but mostly it’s a side- effect from medication. It’s not a good idea to start taking medications because of the side- effects.
There was another thread here today about having cured premature ejaculation. That was about Prozac, i think..

Ahund


January 2009: BPEL: 8.6" EG: 5.7"

Goal for 2009: BPEL: 8.75" EG: 6"

Ultimate goal: BPEL: 9" EG: 6.5"

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