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High Estrogen levels on Athletic 20 year old... WTF DUDE

Originally Posted by thethickone

That’s not true, nor is that what was said. You’re making stuff up.


Originally Posted by thethickone

Originally Posted by marinera

A good reason to avoid self-hormonal-engineering, I think

Not really. I’ve known some Endo’s that didn’t want to treat hormonal imbalances and then see another Endo go ape crap over the same test results. It’s a known fact that quite a few body builders are more up to date and knowledgeable about the hormonal levels than most doctors.

Originally Posted by thethickone

Here’s an old thread that many would benefit from visiting.

How I got androgel

“Androgel has received an increased amount of attention and media coverage due to the BALCO drug scandal. The drug provides a slight testosterone boost but comes with a high financial cost. Doctors prescribe the drug to help combat decreased sexual desire, fatigue and depression.

Self medicating yourself with steroids or any drug without a doctor’s supervision is very dangerous. Please educate before you medicate.

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What it gives?

Last edited by marinera : 05-20-2009 at .

I’ll repeat: If it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it. This applies especially to TRT (testosterone replacement therapy).

There are so many incidences of men who do TRT on their own, or under the care of someone who is not an expert, who end up totally out of whack. It is very difficult to get back to your normal, Square One T level once you have started TRT. Any hormonal specialist will tell you this.



A lot of good posts here. Andro I’m with you as well, good point. Awesome post Sta-kool, and whoever else mentioned him eating better, doing squats, and taking natural things, I already recommended tongkat ali to him along with a few others and increasing healthy fat consumption.

I told Invictus I had a test level of around 260 I believe it was. I was seventeen at the time. Awful. I had no other choice, and HRT has been awesome, totally saved my life. But without kind, loving and caring parents helping me medically with bills, I would be dead.

Originally Posted by thethickone

Second no one told him to take steroids. I don’t see that at all. You have exaggerated every comment and reached your own conclusions.

What he said.

CHECK OUT THE CURRENT ISSUE OF MENS HEALTH. There were normal guys who developed very high estrogen levels through eating/drinking soy products. Do you drink soy milk?

Speaking of squats:

Invictus - I kind of remember a thread about a year ago where you said you had stopped training legs because they were “too big”

Was that you or am I confused.

Originally Posted by SteadyGains

What he said.

What I replied.

Originally Posted by marinera
What I replied.

What Thethickone and steadygains said.

Still you have to explain this:

marinera - High Estrogen levels on Athletic 20 year old… WTF DUDE

Jus repeating “What he/they said” won’t help but make appear you have some difficultisies understanding things guys. And don’t think a joining forces of ball bursters would help, I don’t have problem in organizing groups travels, ok?

Sorry for the lack of involvement, my account was suspended.

But, I did just got my blood test today. Tested for DHT, testosterone, estrogen, and thyroid hormones, and GH. Forgot to ask for LH and FSH though. Darn. Test results will be posted in a week or so.

Anyways, although I never said that anything was wrong with me, I still feel my levels “could” be either normal-low or normal-medium levels. My doctor did back up the endocrinologists lack of open mindedness. He said [about endocrinologists] that they think there is a line, and if you under the line, you are low. If you are above the line, you are high. So all you people, there is such a thing called “normal-low” and “normal-high” levels, if you didn’t already know.

#:-o <<This is what you will look like if you use steroids.


Last edited by invictus : 05-22-2009 at .

Originally Posted by invictus
#:-o <<This is what you will look like if you use steroids.


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After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

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Did they reverse T3 you in that thyroid work?

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Originally Posted by marinera
And don’t think a joining forces of ball bursters would help, I don’t have problem in organizing groups travels, ok?

Ok, I have to ask, what does this mean?

If you don’t get it, it’s un-useful I explain.

Cue the theme music. ;)

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