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Listen I take all the above and they help a lot . Zinc is good to put estrogen under control I would tell him the truth . Tell him to come up with a good idea how to estradiol at bay.


Current 8 bpel /7.25 nbp 6.25 eg .

Goal , I be happy with 8 NBP so I can relocate her kidney.

Originally Posted by bignik
Listen I take all the above and they help a lot . Zinc is good to put estrogen under control I would tell him the truth . Tell him to come up with a good idea how to estradiol at bay.

Cool that’s what I will do. Wonder what his response will be, even though I don’t care if he has something smart to say. I didn’t think these things would bring my levels up enough to really notice a drastic change in the numbers. People may call me a “know it all,” but at least I have scientific studies to back up my claims. If I didn’t do so much research on my own problems and come to the forums for support, I would be on HRT for no reason. I think my test might even rise to the upper limit once he comes up with something to control estrogen. I would guess that most endocrinologists would atleast know how to do that.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Agree with bignik. However E2 that high not only needs further testing, you need a chemical to control it. Arimidex is a great choice. However most doctors over dose it. It only needs to be taken 3 times a week, and .25-.5 mg is plenty. That alone will take your testosterone to 800, maybe 9. You’ll like those boners a lot.

I’d suggest don’t take anything for a while. High estrogen could be just a momentary rebound, your body is trying to manage things toward the balance. It looks like you had a vitamin D deficiency and supplementing helped; but hormonal levels are never fixed in a matter of few days, that will require weeks or months. If you put another chemical in your body right now, you are messing your natural balance again.

A lot of broccoli will lower your estrogen and zinc . It’s just weird how your body all of sudden started going through a hormonal imbalance from 19 until now 23, that’s why they need to get to the bottom of it and find the cause for future purposes.


Current 8 bpel /7.25 nbp 6.25 eg .

Goal , I be happy with 8 NBP so I can relocate her kidney.

Like marinera said maybe I was one of those rare cases that have either a zinc or vitamin D deficiency and supplementing them fixed it. I always took a multivitamin and most times I got the one with the 30mg of zinc. For the past few months I wasn’t even taking a multi because I ran out, but I did start taking the zinc citrate in august and starting building D3 levels around july after seeing studies about it. My sex drive noticably increased also. I will see what my E is next time when I go to see the Endo and do labs again. If by chance it doesn’t fix itself I will follow ironaddict69’s advice on the Arimidex. I always see the same dosage recommendations from people who take it along with their HRT.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Wow. That E2 looks VERY high?

I know that certain doctors do not like prescribing AI`s and use high dose zinc to control E2 on TRT. Doses between 50-150 mg zinc per day. Copper is recommend to add as well.

However, with that high of an E2, I fear zinc may not do it. What causes such high levels? Maybe do a little research on that.

If I were you, I would take new blood work as fast as possible and confirm if the E2 was not a fluke. If it`s still high, I think I would try arimidex.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Renholder
Wow. That E2 looks VERY high?

I know that certain doctors do not like prescribing AI`s and use high dose zinc to control E2 on TRT. Doses between 50-150 mg zinc per day. Copper is recommend to add as well.

However, with that high of an E2, I fear zinc may not do it. What causes such high levels? Maybe do a little research on that.

If I were you, I would take new blood work as fast as possible and confirm if the E2 was not a fluke. If it`s still high, I think I would try arimidex.

Good luck!

I just did an ultrasound on my balls today and they are looking for anything abnormal. If my E is still high next time I do labs I will probably get him to prescribe some type of anti E probably arimidex like you said. I noticed that I recover quicker from workouts so that is a plus. Hope things continue to get better. My joints are still crap though, specifically my wrists. I bought a multivitamin with 30mg of zinc so I will take that in the morning and the citrate before bed. I’m also going to buy 2mg of copper to balance it out.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

I’m amazed at how fast I recover from the gym now. I’ve doubled the workload on my workouts and I recover the worked body parts within 2 days. I never get DOMS from any of my bodyparts like I used to. I can definitely tell that my test has increased as I’m not drained for the rest of the day after I workout. Now hopefully I can get prescribed anti E in december from the endo so I can experience the hard erections like I once had. But I can say that every night I wake up to turn over in the bed, I feel my nocturnal wood and it’s been consistent. But one other thing that has been bothering me though is the gyno. I still hide my chest because of it. Sometimes its invisible and at times the breast tissue appears and it’s apparent. Am I going to have to get surgery to remove it since it wasn’t caused by me taking any hormones or will it fade when I control my high E?


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

I’ve been on a regimen my endocrinologist and I agreed to.testosterone, HCG, and exemestane.. Only prob is exemestane made it very difficult to achieve orgasm. Anyone else with this experience?

What’s going on with that testicle ultra sound sed ? I been having this horrible pain down there for the past 3 months , I guess it’s a varicocele . I have an appointment with a surgeon tomorrow .


Current 8 bpel /7.25 nbp 6.25 eg .

Goal , I be happy with 8 NBP so I can relocate her kidney.

Originally Posted by bignik
What’s going on with that testicle ultra sound sed ? I been having this horrible pain down there for the past 3 months , I guess it’s a varicocele . I have an appointment with a surgeon tomorrow .

I haven’t called to check up on it yet. Now that you reminded me I will call today to find out if it came out normal. I hope everything goes well for you. Will post back here later today to let you all know the results.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Oh I forgot to tell you sed that next time you do blood work ask to check for shbg . If estrogen is high so is shbg and if , shbg is high our free testosterone is low .

And thanks for your support bro , I am scheduled for surgery on the varicocele December 6 th . I have red that if varicocele gets fixed testostrone goes up like 100-200 ng.


Current 8 bpel /7.25 nbp 6.25 eg .

Goal , I be happy with 8 NBP so I can relocate her kidney.

Originally Posted by bignik
Oh I forgot to tell you sed that next time you do blood work ask to check for shbg . If estrogen is high so is shbg and if , shbg is high our free testosterone is low .
And thanks for your support bro , I am scheduled for surgery on the varicocele December 6 th . I have red that if varicocele gets fixed testostrone goes up like 100-200 ng.

On the last test it was 39 on a scale of 13-71. That’s pretty high right?


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

No not really , mine last week was 52 range 16-53 and I think that’s what’s keeping my free test low . I started taking stinging neetle and boron to lower it and I feel like its kinda working .

It’s weird my estrogen is ok 21 range 14-42 that’s why I’m guessing that the shbg is high cause I was on meds (ibuprofen ,aprozalam ).


Current 8 bpel /7.25 nbp 6.25 eg .

Goal , I be happy with 8 NBP so I can relocate her kidney.

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