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Yes, as long as it’s not farm-raised mackerel. But you would have to eat a good ten ounces of the stuff every day to get the amount of omega-3 fatty acids I’m taking. Also, with the polluted oceans, I’m not sure eating fish every day is altogether safe, because the contaminants like mercury get into the fish. Fish oil is safer, especially pharmaceutical-grade, because the contaminants are filtered out during the refining process.


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Originally Posted by zane
ArginMax for Women has passed a double-blind placebo-controlled test (although I am convinced it doesn’t work as well as my diet). Zestra is a topical sensation enhancing oil for the clitoris that has also passed a double-blind, placebo-controlled test, although not to everyone’s taste.

Do you have links to these tests zane?


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Originally Posted by PEst

Also, does Bromocriptine have any major side effects? Would it make my girlfriend enjoy sex more?

Bromo has lots of side effects (both good and bad). Whatever the reason for wanting to take it, I’d highly recommend reading the book on it first before doing anything else.

I’ll bow to zaneblues far superior knowledge on female enhancers (I’m learning a thing or two here which feels good). Bromo should probably be one of the last things on your (on your GF’s) list. The only niggle that I would add is that bromo doesn’t raise dopamine levels, instead it antagonises one of the receptors that dopamine would, which is just slightly downstream of where dopamine would come into play. Chronically high dopamine levels probably isn’t a good way to go. If Omega-3’s raise dopamine (which I didn’t know prior the this thread btw), I would guess it’s likely role is as a pre-cursor (Zaneblue?), which notionally would be much smarter than using an inhibitor drug to artificially keep levels high.

I’m learning from you too. I’m not sure of the mechanism, although I’ve got lots of studies proving it, including rodent autopsy studies. Maybe I could pick your brain. That came out wrong, :chuckle: I should ask my NIH fish oil guy, he knows all. I’m working backwards on all this—started off with the good results in women first, and have spent the last few years figuring out how it works.

But first, study links:

Zestra—I hope this is sufficient. It’s certainly legit:
http://www.zest raforwomen.com/ … blications.html

ArginMax for Women:
http://news-ser vice.stanford.e … 6/arginmax.html

Damiana hasn’t been studied—because it’s an herbal so it can’t be patented, unlike kitchen-sink herbals like ArginMax that are proprietary blends. Only two studies have been done on damiana, as far as I know—one on rats and one on men. The rat study worked. The men’s study didn’t, which doesn’t surprise me because it’s a female aphrodisiac. Damiana is included in just about every kitchen sink herbal, including the incredibly bogus and harmful Avlimil—a kitchen sink herbal promoted with a false pseudo-medical advertising campaign and very questionable accounting practices. The Ecstasy CD I think they have some studies showing the particular sound manipulation does trigger a theta brainwave state in people. Certainly no research supporting an increase in libido from that particular CD, however. Want to mention again it must be used with headphones.

But back to omega-3 fatty acids and dopamine. Why would chronically high dopamine levels be bad, if it was from a natural source humans evolved eating? Now I’m worried, because my dopamine levels are sky high. I’ve been on high dose fish oil now for seven years. No diminishing of the effect, as far as I can tell. Very healthy for you too. Only problems I’ve noticed—hard to concentrate because I want to screw all the time—sort of like being caught in some kind of male puberty phase, including a sloppy attitude toward housework and an unusual interest in porn. Also very passionate feelings. General pleasure levels much higher, which has caused some hearing loss because music is so intensely pleasurable. But that’s about it—and I think outweighed by eradicating depressive tendencies and other health benefits from fish oil.

The odd thing is that schizophrenia is actually helped by going on fish oil.

Here’s some of what I’ve got—dopamine drugs, sex and fish oil:

Szczypka MS, Zhou QY, Palmiter RD. “Dopamine-stimulated sexual behavior is testosterone dependent in mice,” Behavioral Neuroscience. 1998 Oct;112(5):1229-35.
Hull EM, Lorrain DS, Du J, Matuszewich L, Lumley LA, Putnam SK, Moses J. “Hormone neurotransmitter interactions in the control of sexual behavior,” Behav Brain Res 1999 Nov 1; 105(1):105-16.
Buffum, J.: Pharmacosexology: the effects of drugs on sexual function. A review. J. Psychoactive Drugs 14:5, 1982.
Bartlik, B. D., Kaplan, P., Kaminetsky, J., Roentsch, G., & Goldberg, J. (1999). “Medications with the potential to enhance sexual responsivity in women.” Psychiatric Annals, 29(1), 46-52.
Shrivastava, R. K., Shrivastava, S., Overweg, N., & Schmitt, M. (1995). “Amantadine in the treatment of sexual dysfunction associated with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.” Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology, 15(1), 83-84.
Davidson, B. C. (2003). "Eicosanoid precursor polyenoic fatty acids modulate synaptic levels of dopamine in ex-vivo slices of rat brain striatum." In Vivo 17(1): 83-8
Logan, Alan. “Neurobehavioral aspects of omega-3 fatty acids: possible mechanisms and therapeutic value in major depression,” Altern Med Rev 2003;8(4):410-425.
Zimmer L, Delpal S, Guilloteau D, et al. Chronic n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deficiency alters dopamine vesicle density in the rat frontal cortex. Neurosci Lett 2000;284:25-28.
Delion S, Chalon S, Guilloteau D, et al. “Alpha-Linolenic acid dietary deficiency alters age-related changes of dopaminergic and serotonergic neurotransmission in the rat frontal cortex.” J Neurochem 1996;66:1582-1591.
Zimmer L, Delion-Vancassel S, Durand G, et al. “Modification of dopamine neurotransmission in the nucleus accumbens of rats deficient in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids.” J Lipid Res 2000;41:32-40.
Zimmer L, Delpal S, Guilloteau D, et al. Chronic n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid deficiency alters dopamine vesicle density in the rat frontal cortex. Neurosci Lett 2000;284:25-28.


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I also have some citations for how omega-3 fatty acids increase nitric oxide, which of course is handy for sexual function. Nice thing is that unlike Viagra it doesn’t slow down orgasm in women.


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Originally Posted by zaneblue

…But back to omega-3 fatty acids and dopamine.

…Only problems I’ve noticed—hard to concentrate because I want to screw all the time—sort of like being caught in some kind of male puberty phase, including a sloppy attitude toward housework and an unusual interest in porn.

I start wondering … a partner who behaves like a guy, but is a woman?


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

Yes, it’s been very strange. I can’t begin to tell it all. The dopamine has brought on mystical sexual experiences, deep transcendent tantric experience, but it has simultaneously given me the ability to have casual sex like a guy—with full orgasmic enjoyment—which seriously alters the playing field. However I think women in a good marital situation will find that the ability enhances the marriage. My ex-husband just wasn’t open to it, especially the female ejaculation part which he thought was icky.


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Dear Lord, he didn’t want a full blown sex kitten, no, sex tigress in his house?

(at the very least, you’ll be getting pm’s with offers after this)


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

A woman with links, I like that. Thanks zane. The Zestra link keeps crapping out on me when I follow the trail to the actual study, but I’ll take your word for it.

That Stanford study is probably going to figure in a few lawsuits I would imagine. Not an “enlargement” but an “enhancement” pill circus will surely latch on to that.


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No, no, here for the science, and all right, the pix too. Very long story—recent divorce. Also not attractive—very overweight, 39, etc.

My point is any woman can develop my abilities. It’s not that hard, certainly easier than the esoteric paths that you men follow here.


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Not sure I follow, Thunder. The blend is proprietary. Can another manufacturer use that study to support a bogus product?


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That blend is probably the very same “blend” in all the other scam pills on the market. These guys don’t actually care about what is in their “proprietary” blend, it’s just a way to keep people from making the mixture for themselves at a greatly reduced cost. Most of this crap comes from one or two sources, one shipment it’s enzyte, next shipment, same ingredients, it’s Arginmax. With a little rodent fecal matter included at no extra cost to the consumer.


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Are you saying ArginMax for Women specifically is bogus? I will stop recommending it—although I don’t recommend it very strongly anyhow—quite convinced my diet works much better doing the same thing. The Zestra and damiana, on the other hand, provide a different experience.

The ArginMax blend is very different than the Avlimil blend, that contains valerian! And hot pepper sauce to irritate the urethra. Avlimil basically works on the same principle as Spanish fly—irritate the urethra, cause the woman to feel sensation. Although not as dangerous as Spanish fly, daily consumption of hot pepper will ultimately deaden clitoral sensation, as shown in a study by Dr. Beverly Whipple.


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No, not singling out any one product. The whole industry (what was my attorney’s phone number again?) is selling a little of nothing for a lot. The markup per pill has to be outrageous. Zestra I know nothing about, but more than likely it is the same type of situation.


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With Zestra I’m pretty sure the quality control is good. Haven’t heard any bad reports and of course have tried it myself. Yes, it’s expensive, but not as expensive as Viagra or Cialis. Granted a lot of women don’t like it, including me. It basically makes your clit excruciatingly sensitive and swollen and hard. I don’t need that, but some women do, especially women who have had trauma to the region from botched surgery or accident.

Likewise damiana isn’t something I’d want to have every time. That I like, but only rarely—kind of makes you feel stoned.

You’ve got to remember currently women don’t have anything to help. The clinical trials of Viagra and Intrinsa failed. That’s part of the reason I’m so motivated with my diet, because it actually does work.


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