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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
Watch the 20/20 special on steroid use, it’s terrific. Did you know for instance that the FDA, DEA and all of the other governing bodies recommended that Steroids NOT be listed as a scheduled item. Congress pushed that one against6 their recommendations.

The guy that helped get it scheduled leads the documentary. He is the one that headed the whole Lyle Alzado march. They have the medical reports from Alzado’s personal physician who says that steroids had nothing to do with Alzado’s condition or his death. They trace all of the cases and can only find twelve out of thousands that May or may not be attributable to death, but with no evidence supporting the steroid link. At the end of the special documentary, the guy apologizes and admits that his witchhunt against steroids was wrong and not based on the facts.

This is of course for healthy ADULT males. The effects on pre-pubescent males can be catastrophic, especially in regard to pre-mature hardening of growth plates, effecting linear bone growth.

Check it out if you can find it, it is great info.

Knowledge is power!


I think I’ve seen something about that, Lyle was a football player wasn’t he? If it’s the one I’m thinking of it was on A Current Affairs and they were debunking the myths behind steroid use. They had a couple of guys in their 60’s and 70’s who had been using steroids since they were 25-30. Even as old as they were they only looked 50 at most and they were fit and healthy (according to their doctor) and have never had any health problems as a result of steroid use.


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

That sounds like it yes. It was very good. The idea is as simple as PE. You have to use sense when using AAS just as pulling on your wiener. Too much of a good thing is not necessarily a good thing. Have you noticed that this discussion has become more of a chat than a thread?


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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
That sounds like it yes. It was very good. The idea is as simple as PE. You have to use sense when using AAS just as pulling on your wiener. Too much of a good thing is not necessarily a good thing. Have you noticed that this discussion has become more of a chat than a thread?


Moderation is the key to anything.

Hehe, considering the nature of the subject I’m surprised it hasn’t turned into a debate/argument like so many other threads. :)


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

Few people here have the knowledge base on this subject to argue it effectively. I have spent many years as a vet on the anabolic discussion forums and have used anabolics longer than alot of these young guys have been alive. What’s to argue?


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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard

What’s to argue?

I guess that depends which “side” one wants to take. Some people are so dead set against they’ll condemn you to hell for it.


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

Because knowledge is power and ignorance is bliss. They have no knowledge of the subject matter, no practical experience, only what they have “heard” but want to speak as if any “authority”.


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Trib doesn’t increase test at all, it is commond knowledge in the weight lifting world, big waste of money

Knowledge is power but Power corrupts and corruption breeds arrogance.

The steroid community is too small for the larger non-user base for mainstream society to look at it in objective way. It’s really quite sad when people are so easily mislead without doing their own bit of reading and research or even learning from personal experience.


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

Very true. And yes, Trib is crap. Pretty much all of the pre-cursor, pro-hormone, etc, etc is crap that is marketed for those who lack knowledge, power, corruption and arrogance! LOL, sorry, I couldn’t resist!


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Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
Knowledge is power but Power corrupts and corruption breeds arrogance.

The steroid community is too small for the larger non-user base for mainstream society to look at it in objective way. It’s really quite sad when people are so easily mislead without doing their own bit of reading and research or even learning from personal experience.


Remind you of anything? Say, like, oh I don’t know, PE? The vast majority of the world says that you and I are cooks with latent homosexual tendencies and daddy issues because we talk about this shit in a penis forum and we use devices to stretch and grow our penis’. They say you cannot change the size of your penis. Dejavu.

I am Mike, The intelligent, powerful, corrupt arrogant muscular guy with a large penis! Nice to meet you!


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Just did a bit of a search on Trib and there’s a few different types but only bulgarian trib contains Steroidal Saponins which have any effect on test levels

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Steroidal saponins are anabolic steroid precursors that the body can use to manufacture for itself the desired growth hormones to build itself naturally and healthy. These plant (steroid precursor) constituents are not actively anabolic themselves, they are building blocks that the body can use to build it’s own anabolic steroids. These plant steroid precursors will not push the body b eyond it’s normal limits. Plants that provide natural anabolic steroidal precursors are Wild Yam, Sasparilla, Licorice, Damiana, Yucca and Saw Palmetto. Saw Palmetto is actually more of a sexual organ tonic so it is used more to support male testosterone production. Ginseng also has the steroidal saponins, it is quite epwensive, and the steroidal saponins in the less expensive Wild Yam and Sasparilla have a closer chemical construction to the anabolic steroids. Each of these plants can be taken individually or in combination, as teas or tinctures. Take 1 cup of tea or 15 - 25 drops of tincture in the morning and evening.

Courtesy of http://www.newremedies.com/nu/herbal.html

Going through the list there seems like a few things there that might help with PE.


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

Tossed, it has been a treat talking to you buddy. I am going to go watch “Planet Terror” now and chill out. It’s great to see a newbie who is not only intelligent, but is not afraid to jump into our community head first (no pun intended) and post some good dialogue.

Welcome to Thunders and hope you have great success.


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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
Remind you of anything? Say, like, oh I don’t know, PE? The vast majority of the world says that you and I are cooks with latent homosexual tendencies and daddy issues because we talk about this shit in a penis forum and we use devices to stretch and grow our penis’. They say you cannot change the size of your penis. Dejavu.

I am Mike, The intelligent, powerful, corrupt arrogant muscular guy with a large penis! Nice to meet you!


Haha, had a good laugh at the cooks and latent homo’s part :D

People discredit things they know nothing about or make up something to support something that can’t be explained (religion anyone?).

Pleased to meet you Mike, I’m a Salad, a Tossed Salad with a delicious vinaigrette sauce.


I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

PE yes possibly in regard to improved blood circulation, building huge amounts of muscle mass and strength, not a chance brother. Later!


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Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
Tossed, it has been a treat talking to you buddy. I am going to go watch “Planet Terror” now and chill out. It’s great to see a newbie who is not only intelligent, but is not afraid to jump into our community head first (no pun intended) and post some good dialogue.

Welcome to Thunders and hope you have great success.


Thanks bud, been a pleasure. Sometimes I think I’m too full on. :rolleyes:

Hopefully I can share my success with others and help where it’s needed.
Enjoy your movie.

EDIT: Fucking smilies.. >:(


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