Tongkat Ali?

@ Dongalong ,

Good description of guidelines although I have a remark :

Aren’t fatty acids required for testosterone synthesis , and the concentration of fatty acids is higher in omega 3 rich seafood, but you may not combine seafood with TA

Verthirz: What are you located?

Netherlands why ?

Try this website https://www.tongkatali.com . They sell Indonesian Tongkat Ali and they are very good. I guess they have several parallel websites and you can pay in euro.

I bought the 50:1 powder from this seller. They did a good job and it arrived promptly.

Holy cow…someone said the powder tastes like cat shit…well, I don’t know what cat shit tastes like, but if it tastes like this stuff…DON’T EVER EAT ANY!!!

It is incredibly bitter! Something that tastes this bad MUST work! Anyway, next time I will order the capsules! I started on a 1000mg dose day last week, not sure what is doing what because I also took some cialis because of over doing my PE routine. As the Tongkat kicks in and the cialis goes out of my system, I will have a good idea.

I’m really thinking about trying to reduce it to 500 mg a day and see what that does, but that will be after a cycle of 1000 mg a day for 2 weeks. I plan on 2 weeks on and 1 week off and see how that works for me.

This vendor, if its the real McCoy…and I’m fairly confident it is, is giving great prices. I think I payed $19.95 for 35 grams of the powder, which is really good. I’ll let you know as this kicks in.

Buy the 1:200 powder from Tongkat Ali extracts for sex and Black Ginger (Kaempferia Parviflora) for weight loss, you can work out the costs and it works out cheapest, and this stuff really works, I’m studying medicine and I’ve done the endocrine system and all hormone actions in the body to death, know EVERYTHING about the stuff, and this stuff is the ideal way to increase testosterone (endogenous that is, none of that anabolic crap), I’ve tried it and the benefits are plenty while there are hardly any bad side effects, I can last endlessly during sex, if I have food and water to keep going I can go forever, I mean FOREVER.

And if there is 1 important peice of advise I can give you when it comes to tongkat ali is this: DON’t BUY THOSE STUPID TABLETS, there all crap and you would have to take a few hundred of them each morning, I have worked out the concentrations and they’re all ridiculous compared to the real refined powders you get from Indonesia (tongkatali.org), just don’t buy them, everyone knows the whole mass marketed PE industry is a load of crap so stick to the raw stuff, stick to the science!

Do you need a commercial account tag mideastbeast?

I believe that they recommend avoiding seafood ONLY because it has caused some nasty allergic reactions in some people, when combined with TA.

I’d like to hear from some of the people who started this thread who are still taking TA. Any negatives from taking it 3 or 4 years?

I have been wanting to try this for a long time..

I really want to get the real thing from indonesia.. But they are quite expensive.. I know some of you have been buying it from a certain Ebay seller.. I know he has a different packaging for his product, but are you guys 100% certain that his stuff are the exact same thing as the indonesia one from that main indonesia company? Are there any proofs of it? Since getting it from him only costs like 50 bucks or so right? As opposed to 160 or something.

Lastly, when the company from indonesia send you guys the bottles, does it come in a discrete blank box without anything that might give the product away?

Anyone?

As a counter-point, I’ve been very happy with the Libidus/Super-L/Arize-type products, which come in capsules. They contain mostly TA, plus several other ingredients. I take them only as I need them — not every day — and so find them convenient, and not horrendously expensive, esp. when purchased in bulk. Personally, I don’t see the point of taking TA (or anything else) continuously.

(Incidentally, I did try a TA I bought online a couple of years ago, taken daily. It did nothing for me.)

Dear mideastbeast! I am scientifically oriented too, I have tried TA 1:50 powder (10 pouches) from Sumatra during 3 months, now I liked the logical explanations, the fact that it stimulates Testosterone, and not replace the body’s one, etc., but the fact is: I did Bugger all to me; I’m not squeamish, I started with 1g a day the 1st 2weeks(twice a day), then, 2g/day (twice a week), then went up to 4g/day for 3months, I still have a pouch left, I have noticed not a single little difference neither in sexual performance, nor in size of genitalia as Mr kruz or whatever his name is (The German guy publicising it’s effects on the net) this guy must get a commission from the suppliers in Sumatra, he says he uses it in combination with Viagra, which defeats the whole purpose; if we’re talking about a natural product not interfering with endocrinological system.

Ahund from Norway, had a testosterone test after having gone through similar experience as me busted the myth.
Did anyone notice that the only source of information about TA is that German guy, with no scientific data whatsoever, so my advice to anyone here, is persevere with PE, no matter how tedious it can be, as far as I am concerned, it is the only thing that works, I’ve been around for while, I’m 45, tried many things, I gained 2cm in length, about 1.5 in girth, after a few years(not consistently) never the less, the rest is all commercial crap believe you me.
Mac.

Hi! I’ve tried the tongkat ali from Sumatra and I can report positive feedback on it increasing my agressivity and libido.

BUT at leats if I make a ballance among price/results… I would not do it again. I’ve been using other supplements which where cheaper and gave me better results.

Can you tell us your positive results and which other supplements gave you better results and in which way they were better?

Thanks