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Tongkat Ali Vs. Finasteride

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Tongkat Ali made me insanely horny.

It took about 3-4 weeks to start. I then took it for about 10 months.

I mean there were days when I couldn’t work, couldn’t think, or anything because all I could think about was sex.

The flip side is that I actually gained about 1/2 inch in erect length. Looking back I think it was the extreme amount of masturbation. I often would find myself pumping and pulling very hard.

It’s good for me to know that if I ever have a problem with libido, TA will be there for me. But I did not like how I was while taking it. Without it I want to be with my wife twice a day. Wanting it bad every 1-2 hours is not a good way to live.

I do suggest that men might try it for their honeymoon, or any other time they will have the opportunity to have a lot of sex. (Like 5 or more times per day.) Remember to start taking it ahead of time.

And I don’t have any recommendations about the dosage.

I took a full bottle (100 tablets) of TA pure 1:50 extract as prescribed and it did absolutely nothing for me.

I also tried Dostinex for a few months and that did nothing for me as well.

I tried Paxil at various dosages to make me last longer and each time I went back to the well on that one (three times now) was a complete waste of time. The things we will do when we want to believe.

I was on 10mg daily for the past 4-5 months and have been off a week now after finally having enough weak erections and loss of libido (and 10mg is a small dose). I am never ever going back on that shit or any other SSRI. And when all was said and done even after being juiced up on Viagra I didnt last much longer than usual.

It boggles my mind how results either from PE routines, devices, supplements, etc. can have such varied results.

The one thing that I believe the most are the basic tenants of hair loss mitigation, e.g., Rogain, Propecia, and Nizoral. Above all else this seems to have the most consistent base of positive results. So if you have hair loss issues there is very good hope for you especially if caught early.

My conclusion is this. Your dick and whatever you do or ingest to make it grow is going to be a crap shot with the odds not in your favor on average (30% shot?). But again the things we (and me too for sure) will do when we want to believe.

Oh and Viagra works too but C may be better for you than V. See what I mean?

And since I’m on a roll anabolic steroids will give you more muscle in a shorter amount of time than any body building supplement on the planet.

Sorry if off topic. It just drives me nuts to hear such thumbs up claims for stuff that in my experience is not even close to what people claim.

Originally Posted by baywatch
I took a full bottle (100 tablets) of TA pure 1:50 extract as prescribed and it did absolutely nothing for me.

I also tried Dostinex for a few months and that did nothing for me as well.

I tried Paxil at various dosages to make me last longer and each time I went back to the well on that one (three times now) was a complete waste of time. The things we will do when we want to believe.

I was on 10mg daily for the past 4-5 months and have been off a week now after finally having enough weak erections and loss of libido (and 10mg is a small dose). I am never ever going back on that shit or any other SSRI. And when all was said and done even after being juiced up on Viagra I didnt last much longer than usual.

It boggles my mind how results either from PE routines, devices, supplements, etc. Can have such varied results.

The one thing that I believe the most are the basic tenants of hair loss mitigation, e.g., Rogain, Propecia, and Nizoral. Above all else this seems to have the most consistent base of positive results. So if you have hair loss issues there is very good hope for you especially if caught early.

My conclusion is this. Your dick and whatever you do or ingest to make it grow is going to be a crap shot with the odds not in your favor on average (30% shot?). But again the things we (and me too for sure) will do when we want to believe.

Oh and Viagra works too but C may be better for you than V. See what I mean?

And since I’m on a roll anabolic steroids will give you more muscle in a shorter amount of time than any body building supplement on the planet.

Sorry if off topic. It just drives me nuts to hear such thumbs up claims for stuff that in my experience is not even close to what people claim.

I hear ya, supps. Are def. Weak and a crap shoot half the time, but what is up with you peddling anabolic steroid?

Not good juju my friend.

Not good.


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by gold_member
I would doubt that finasteride is necessary to take along with TA. TA cannot be nearly as effective as HCG, so I wouldn’t expect DHT levels to rise dramatically, or estrogen levels, or even test levels.

I took TA for a while and measured free Testosterone. There was a dose-dependent major increase in fT level.


Later - ttt

Not peddling anything per say just stating a fact as I know it much like the hair loss push.

But here’s my disclaimer. Steriods are not good.

Baywatch, I have no doubt that TA did not work for you.

I believe it because what reason would have to lie about your experience here?

I am also truthfully reporting that TA greatly increased my libido.

I find it useful to learn about other people’s experiences, even if opposite of mine, it doesn’t “drive me nuts” at all.

I agree with you chronostone. People’s experiences are all we have like it or not and that is better than having nothing at all.

islord,
if you appreciate more your dick then you hairs, stop taking finasteride.

The only way to know if Tongkat Ali/Tribulus Terrestris can be useful for you is to try it; from what I know Tongkat is pretty expensive; Tribulus relatively low-cost: i buyed 1 bottle of 100 tablet for € 12,50, and you have to take at least 8 tablet a day/dose for the first 3-4 days, then you can diminishing the dosage.

I want to tell, about Tongkat Ali, that there is a member from Malaysia on this site that posted (do a search ‘cause I don’t remember exactly the thread) that in his country, where this herb grow, they consider that like coffee or tea : it give you a little more energy, but definitively not that masculinity-boost that in the West Side Of The World is selled for.

Also, don’t seem to me that Indonesian are winning lot of medal in the sprint/power/strength sports, nor that there are lot of Indonesian porn-stars with mega-penis.

In Mediterranean countries we have abundance of garlic and listen to me: it’s effects on testosterone are much more scientifically proven then those of Tongkat - maybe for this reason Greeks are having fantastic results in sprint sport and wight-lifting? :) They are also considered pretty masculines people (greece men, I mean).

Seriously:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e…pt=AbstractPlus

I know what are thinking, but don’t be afraid: there is on the market some treated garlic that saves (at least a little) your’s friends noise.

Originally Posted by ticktickticker

I took TA for a while and measured free Testosterone. There was a dose-dependent major increase in fT level.

Was total Test increased as well, or was it just an increase in free Test? This could give a big clue as to how the herb works….What was your source of tongkat ali?


I love GOLD

Tongkat IIRC works by stimulating LH/FSH release from pituitary, so as long as your natty production is operational it will work (more or less, also has to be real stuff). Problem will begin in case of Leydig cell desensitization/atrophy, pituitary problems or ongoing hormonal imbalances (ouch, imagine progesterone induced ED victim administering hefty dose of TA - can I hear AAARGH! I have titties now!).

Definitely not wonder drug, but can be nice test booster for some ;)

Hello guys;

I’d like to thank all of you writing your opinion.

Finally I got the tongkat ali on a 50:1 extract, 400mg per capsule. I felt some effect; don’t know if it was only psychological or it was really working on my balls, but I felt a boost of libido and aggressiveness.

I’ve been taking FS before going to sleep in different dosages: 0’2 mg, 0’5mg, 1mg… just to test myself. About TA, I had one capsule in the morning and another in the afternoon.

Everything was going pretty good, but shit came up a few days ago when I started to feel high tenderness in my left nipple. At first I didn’t give a f**k about it, but one night I was reading a hair loss forum and I realized that tenderness in one or both nipples “could” be an early signal of gyno, attempting to other people’s testimonies. Fuck sake!! Bitch tits!!

So what? I stopped taking everything just hoping this feeling on my nipple remits. Now I’m taking zinc supplement 50mg and epilobium parviflorum 1000mg per day, two substances which claim to be soft aromatase inhibitors. It’s my fourth day but still no goodness.

Of course I’ve rad about lots of substances which are specially made for inhibiting aromatase or estrogens: anastrozol, tamoxifen, etc. or other ones some of you recommended in this thread, but I don’t want to start with that shit without a doctor’s recommendations on blood tests: no way.

So, if this tenderness on my nipple persist I’ll visit the doctor. I’ve got thousands of questions but don’t wanna disturb you… so… if any recommendation, thanks a lot. If not, thank you anyway.

Greetings from Spain

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