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Tongkat Ali anyone taking it?

I have been using Tongkat Ali one day a week as part of a cycle where I take a different supplement 5 days out of 7 following cycling advice from Mark Wilson. Believe I have got some benefit but with this rotation is difficult to work out which one(s) is (are) doing the heavy lifting. If I were to take it on a number of consecutive days how long should I need before I get an obvious effect? I have been using one by Biovea which is easy to get here in Australia via the net.

Not keen on Yohimbe which I gather is banned here in Australia. I gather it works by increasing blood pressure.

Well that is one of the nasty side effects of Yohimbe.

I found tongat ali here in Canada in Toronto at herbies herbs on queen st. If anyone is interested.

I’m going to try some when my health returns after my coronary surgery.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by austfred
I have been using Tongkat Ali one day a week as part of a cycle where I take a different supplement 5 days out of 7 following cycling advice from Mark Wilson. Believe I have got some benefit but with this rotation is difficult to work out which one(s) is (are) doing the heavy lifting. If I were to take it on a number of consecutive days how long should I need before I get an obvious effect? I have been using one by Biovea which is easy to get here in Australia via the net.

Not keen on Yohimbe which I gather is banned here in Australia. I gather it works by increasing blood pressure.

Yohimbe almost gave me a heart attack last year on the soccer field. My heart rate would come down from 180 and I had to lie on my back on the sideline for over an hour before it returned to normal. I didnt know at the time, but I had major blockages in my coronary arteries, which I’ve recently had surgically repaired with stents.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942
I have ED and normally require up to 100 mg of Viagra in order to obtain an erection. I also use a supplement (Maxidus) which includes 154 mg of eurycloma longfolia (tonkat ali) and several other circulation improving herbs, and which generates similar results as the Viagra.

Try 50 mg of DHEA sublingually twice a day.

I tear my wife apart every morning now after suffering terrible E.D.

Lots of Maca as well.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

aunit

which other supplements have to be taken with dhea and how much to cure ed. Does one still need viagra with the mentioned supplements.

Thanks

Originally Posted by a-unit
Try 50 mg of DHEA sublingually twice a day.

I tear my wife apart every morning now after suffering terrible E.D.

Lots of Maca as well.

Should the DHEA be cycled? And, should we take the Maca sublingually as well?

Originally Posted by a-unit
Try 50 mg of DHEA sublingually twice a day.

I tear my wife apart every morning now after suffering terrible E.D.

Lots of Maca as well.

I was recently talking to my ex girlfriend who is a nurse, she said pills to be taken sublingually are designed for such use so that they dissolve quickly, like in 20 - 30 seconds. And those not designed for it are supposed to be swallowed because they are supposed to enter the system at a slower rate, and if taken sublingually could actually cause too much to enter the system. The reason for this is because when producing the pills, or capsules, to be swallowed, they allow for the fact that some will be lost in the digestive process. However, if getting more into the system is the goal there’s another way, you can also take the capsules with grapefruit juice. Grapefruit juice suppresses the intestinal enzyme CT (Cytochrome) P450. This enzyme blocks the absorption of things we swallow. It’s the body’s own protective measure. With some drugs it’s not a problem, but taking other drugs, like Lipitor, with grapefruit juice can be dangerous. Unbeknownst to us laypersons, when making the pills, they are actually stronger than we need. And, again, this is done because they know some of it will be lost in the digestive process. So if you take something made for swallowing, and take it subliminally, or take it with a CT P450 inhibitor, like grapefruit juice, you can actually get too much of it into your bloodstream. But apparently it’s helping you a-unit so who am I to critique your method? As they say, if it’s not broke don’t fix it. :-)

On a related issue, I was taking 1200 mg of Maca. Is that what you would call “Lots of Maca?” Maybe I can just bump it up a little at a time.

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean
I was recently talking to my ex girlfriend who is a nurse, she said pills to be taken sublingually are designed for such use so that they dissolve quickly, like in 20 - 30 seconds. And those not designed for it are supposed to be swallowed because they are supposed to enter the system at a slower rate, and if taken sublingually could actually cause too much to enter the system. The reason for this is because when producing the pills, or capsules, to be swallowed, they allow for the fact that some will be lost in the digestive process. However, if getting more into the system is the goal there’s another way, you can also take the capsules with grapefruit juice. Grapefruit juice suppresses the intestinal enzyme CT (Cytochrome) P450. This enzyme blocks the absorption of things we swallow. It’s the body’s own protective measure. With some drugs it’s not a problem, but taking other drugs, like Lipitor, with grapefruit juice can be dangerous. Unbeknownst to us laypersons, when making the pills, they are actually stronger than we need. And, again, this is done because they know some of it will be lost in the digestive process. So if you take something made for swallowing, and take it subliminally, or take it with a CT P450 inhibitor, like grapefruit juice, you can actually get too much of it into your bloodstream. But apparently it’s helping you a-unit so who am I to critique your method? As they say, if it’s not broke don’t fix it. :-)

On a related issue, I was taking 1200 mg of Maca. Is that what you would call “Lots of Maca?” Maybe I can just bump it up a little at a time.

I switched to taking dhea under the tongue and noticed an immediate improvement.

I take two tablespoons of maca at bedtime. I don’t know how that equates to milligrams.

I don’t mind the taste, though some might.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Originally Posted by a-unit
I switched to taking dhea under the tongue and noticed an immediate improvement.

So how long do you keep it in your mouth? I tried it under the tongue and it was all still there after a half hour, at which point I just swallowed it. I didn’t notice any difference. But again that was just once.

Tongkat Ali

Been a member for some time but never felt I had much to contribute till now as I read this thread on Tongkat, so my first post. Have used Tongkat Ali for some years and can confirm its effectiveness in raising testosterone levels, although my opinion is belittled by the huge amount of positive research that has been done on this plant. Proven to increase NATURAL testosterone, meaning its making your balls produce more, not giving you some chemical testosterone! I.e good for long term use.

I lived in Malaysia for some years (where the best Tongkat comes from) and am lucky to have a reliable, high quality and cheap source, beware of low quality goods, even in Malaysia this is a problem, and the government is often closing down company’s who are exporting ‘fake’ Tongkat. One simple test for your Tongkat is taste, tongkat Ali has one of the most bitter tastes in nature- I mean BITTER. I have read of people talking about the results of taking half a teaspoon of Tongkat Ali daily. Forget the results, its not Tongkat! Trust me, no one will put it in there mouth 2 times.

1:200 extract is what I take, cycled 5 days on 2 off, as the body become accustomed to it, I buy pure vacuum sealed extract and put it in my own gel caps.

I now take about 1 gram a day, in 2 gel caps, I have experimented with up to 3 grams a day but found that while it made me very horny, it also made me cum very quickly- kind of like being a teenager again, and not exactly what I wanted. I do find however that when I’m taking it at 1 gram a day I’m brighter, more motivated, more energetic and while only slightly more horny, my raised energy levels mean I tend to want more frequent sex.

As for aggression associated with taking it, from raised testosterone levels, I can only speak from my experience and say that I have not felt that- but people vary, I was not an aggressive teenager (when testosterone levels are at there highest) and I believe the extra energy it gives me has positive effect. If you are prone to anger it may not be the best thing for you.

Hope what I’ve said may be of benefit to anyone interested to taking this supplement.

Thanks, Magic333000, but the inevitable question is where do you get your TA?

Originally Posted by ChuckR

Thanks, Magic333000, but the inevitable question is where do you get your TA?

Off course this last question will remain unaswered

Tried Tongkat Ali for a while but affected my Blood Pressure

Tongkat ali

Sorry for the late response, I get my tongkat ali direct from a gym in malaysia where I used to work out, I learnt about it first from the guys there who use it for working out obviously, so its at local price (plus a little I’m sure) and the quality is as good as it gets. I’ve known the guy there for years and still visit regularly. I get it in 100g packs. Anyone interested in tongkat should have at look at the studys the malaysian government made on it, very positive, unbiased scientific reports. I have been telling him (gym owner) to make a web page and sell it, as its all legal for him to sell as a malaysian and he can undercut the whole market, with a quality product. If and when this happens I will provide a link here. In the mean time I’m happy to provide his contact details to anyone who wants to deal directly with him. Amazingly he always sends me the product first and I pay later! As he is worried it might get lost in the post! Email me at greenpeter003@yahoo.co.uk for contact details, id be happy to show him there is a possible bussiness for him!

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