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Jafar,

I only take 4-6 tablets a day. I’ve used the stuff for over 2 montha, so I shouldnt have to take that many like Anon. Mainly due to the fact that the herb is already in my system.

Alex

I think I will try to take the dosage that Anon used, and see if it works!

I keep seeing “the fountain” term being used. What video is everyone talking about?
Does anyone know the name of the actor(s). If it the one I am thinking of, does anyone
know the name of the chick???

koooky


Keep working, keep learning

KEEP GROWING!!!!

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Originally posted by anon1122
avocet8, I have been aware that the seminal vesicles and prostate produce the vast majority of semen, but I think ball pumping can contribute. Even though the ball sac gets really big and full of fluid, I think that the prostate and seminal vessicles also swell a bit when ball pumping…

anon1122;

There may well be something to your theory. Ball pumping might be like edging in the sense that over time your prostate and vesicles are getting some kind of continuous stimulation. But any heavier load that results comes from those two organs. The longer we “edge” either during sex or masturbation, the larger the seminal output, usually.

But I’d like to throw something else out for discussion, too.

I think in a way we’re all doing a lot of useless speculation here. Unless, as southpaw trying to do, we come up with some effective way of measuring volume accurately, and over time, we’re basing our opinions of these various supplements on our own subjective, visual evaluations. Of course we know when a load is heavier than most but what caused that could be a lot of variables.

southpaw (I think this is in Mens’ Sexual Health Forum) is trying to track by using the empty barrel of a calibrated syringe. While that’s clever, I don’t see how he can hit such a small target and not lose some of his product - or ejaculate less volume because he is so intent at that moment on trying to hit the target.

I will propose to peforeal (a highly scientific-minded guy, who also has a fine sense of humor) that he think about an easy and not distracting way to track this. Otherwise we are all doing a lot of guessing, it seems to me.


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avocet8

Avocet8, yes most of this stuff is speculation, and some of the results may be placebo. There are so many factors involved that it is difficult to determine anything real. Different brands and different batches produce different results. I had some NOW L-arginine in capsules that worked better than anything I had tried. I liked it so much I bought like 2 kg of NOW l-arginine in powder form, and it doesn’t do a thing. Maybe the batch was bad or something. Another thing I have found is that I can take all the supplements in the world but if I don’t build up to a strong orgasm, or if I am not particularly horny, then the load will be a disappointment.

AlexW, I typically do shoot only about once a week. Not necessarily for load volume, but I have been trying to get into semen retention for health benefits. You can still get your pussy but you don’t allways have to cum. Try having sex for an hour without cuming. Then do it again the next day. Then the next and then see how much you shoot when you finally cum. I am beginning to believe that edging and prolonged stimulation has a whole lot to do with the final amount.

Kooky - look up “sperm fountain” on kazaa.

A final note, for those who arent getting results with supplements, you have to have all the pieces of the puzzle, good hydration, good pc strength, good health/nutrition/hormone balance, and you have to have desire. Also it is a gradual thing. You gotta build up. I have been supplementing for a couple of years and the loads have built up slowly but surely.


Last edited by anon1122 : 06-09-2003 at .

Getting my hopes up for blowing enormous wads, I recently purchased a source of Tribulus Terrestris called Vigor-Force (My local drug-store did not have Tribestan, but they seemed to know what it was). It says this on the bottle of Vigor-Force:

Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris extract, 45% saponins……350 mg

I dont know what the saponins are. Does anyone know anything about this product? There’s a bunch of other herbs in the ingredients as well: Muira Puama, Saw Palmetto, Ginko Biloba…

I haven’t tried it yet. I figured I would post here before I opened the bottle.

Skin


"If you build it, she will cum." --Growth of Dreams

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Originally posted by avocet8
anon;

Maybe watch your zinc intake. Anything over 50 mg/day may get you into zinc overload. Also, you need very little copper to counteract that leached by zinc. There are a whole bunch of good zinc supplements which also contain some copper so that you don't have to supplement that separately.
I've found that as little as 25 mg zinc will satisfy the prostate's needs and contribute to keeping ejaculate volume high.

Pygeum tends to increase pre-cum from the Cowper's glands only and not s. vesicle or prostatic fluid. Don't know the mechanism yet.

Just want to make this absolutely as clear as possible: Are we talking about milli grams or micro grams?


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Anon1122, Have a few questions on your supplement investigation… How much Flax Seed Oil, Lecithin, Tribulus Terestris, L-Arginine and Cerniton flower pollen??? What is Tribestan? Can you take all of thses at the same time without problems? Do you do kegals or anything else for “shooting” distance? Thanks, J33DOW

base:

Zinc is measured in milligrams (“mg”).


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avocet8

Flax Seed Oil - 1-2 tablespoons with protein shake.

Lecithin - same as above.

Tribulus - most come in capsules, I just take 2 or 3.

L-arginine - I have been taking about 5 grams of powder but I haven’t gotten the results I had when I was taking about 2 grams worth in capsules. I think maybe the powder goes bad faster?

Yes, I take all of these at the same time. I used to do a lot of kegels for distance and orgasm intensity. I haven’t done them for a long time and I have noticed that the loads and orgasms have tapered off. I will be doing a whole lot of them and see if that gets me back into shape.

Anon,

I find it very hard to practice the kind of ‘ejaculation abstinence’ that you are doing. I can imagine that by the end of the 3rd day, for example, I will be so horny that I will be thinking of nothing but sex. Also, isn’t this very bad for the prostate cos it will be congested with blood, and therefore prone to prostatitis? Also, when you said that you did not ejaculate, did you experience orgasms like Avocet does without ejaculating?

jafar;

I’m one of those who have to get off about every two - three days. The prostate does not congest with blood, rather with built-up and gradually “stagnating” prostatic fluid. I hate the word “stagnating” but that is sort of what happens for guys with prostate issues. Frequent ejaculation does very often relieve or even prevent prostatitis by cleaning out the plumbing.


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avocet8

Avocet,

I understand totally what you mean, and therefore I am a bit concerned about refraining from ejaculating. I have had prostatis too five years ago, and it took almost one year for it to completely clear up. Frequent ejaculation can prevent prostatitis and therefore I am very wary of deliberately holding back ejaculation, including using the Kegel method.

Good move for you.


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avocet8

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Originally posted by avocet8
base:

Zinc is measured in milligrams (“mg”).

Ok, just needed to make sure, had a strange flashback that told me otherwise.


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

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