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The DHT Penis Enlargement Diet

I was reading the thread about Dr. Pezzi’s book ‘The Science of Sex’, and his interesting theories of lowering DHT with Finastride to create a snapback effect when you stop taking the drug, and wondering if it can be done by means of diet alone.

Here are the quotes behind the concept from that thread posted by Cya at 8.

Originally Posted by Cya at 8
In reality, the penis becomes less sensitive to DHT after puberty, but the sensitivity is not zero. Thus, the DHT level can influence penile size, but to a much smaller degree than it could before the end of puberty, when the penis was still very sensitive to DHT. As I mentioned before, I don’t think the DHT level matters after puberty in regard to penis size, I know it. (If any physician or scientist doubts this, put your money where your mouth is. Let’s wager a million dollars. You’ll lose.)

After reading all this, you might think that increasing the DHT level is the way to go. It may help a wee bit, but there is a much better secret that I accidentally discovered. First, starve your body of DHT by taking finasteride or another drug that blocks DHT production. If you take this long enough and then stop it cold turkey, your DHT production will resume. However, your body will now be more sensitive to DHT, and penile cells that once yawned when they encountered DHT will spring to life and grow faster than they did in puberty, when the DHT upsurge was much more gradual. Your penis won’t just be larger, it will be exquisitely sensitive, and sex will feel much better. Your libido will increase to the point that you would be called a nymphomaniac, if you were a woman.

Besides DHT, other factors influence penile size. Genetics obviously matters, but it is pointless to discuss them because this is not under your control. In terms of what you can influence, DHT is the most important factor, but there are others. I won’t reiterate everything I said in my book, but I will briefly mention other things that make a difference: other hormones, hormone transport proteins such as sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin, cadmium, zinc, antiandrogens, phytoestrogens, exogenous estrogens, endogenous estrogens, xenoestrogens, obesity, numerous drugs and chemicals, collagen, elastin, and a dozen other factors.”

THERE IS A WAY! Turns out there may be a healthy alternative option that can both lower DHT and increase testosterone with the benefit of lowering fat on the cycle and increasing muscle when going off. It’s as simple as cycling vegan and meat rich diets while exercising. I’ve known about the benefits of this practice with bodybuilding for a few years now, but this looks to be another reason to try it out. After a few hours of research today I found that vegan diets rich in soy, nuts, and fats like pumpkin seed oil and avocado lower DHT significantly and regrows hair in balding men. That along with amply amounts of black NOT green tea, zinc from nuts and wheat germ, and some caffeine (protects hair from falling out) may produce near similar results without any harmful side effects. I do not recommend large amounts of soy btw for reasons I will explain later.

Now there will be a problem with fatigue at first from the sudden switch of high biological value protein to harder to break down plant sources. This is just because the body will require more energy to extract and combine the amino acids into useable complete proteins. This action will burn extra calories at rest so those of you looking to gain or increase weight will need to pump up calories from an extra serving or two from grains. Contrary to popular belief you will not lose muscle on this diet unless you stay completely sedentary for weeks on end and don’t eat enough calories for your body weight. Testosterone does increase and you CAN still gain muscle but an entire weeks worth before will not take you a month. However the sudden fat loss you experience from this more than makes up for it. I once experimented with this diet for six full weeks without working out and lost ten lbs of fat. I did lose some muscle but gained it back a month later with a little extra when I went back to eating meat and workout like before.

The protein needs are actually not as bad as you might think. No matter what your diet meat or veggie you only need about 1 grams per Kilo(2.2 lbs) of protein a day to build muscle and keep up with energy needs. Everything else is broken down with a highly taxing process and turned into glucose to be stored through glycogenesis. However you still need a small portion of high bv protein each day or else you will be in for the worst headache of your life. One of the best sources to alleviate this is and have after a workout is 2.5 cups of whole milk (20g protein, 30g carbs). Every time I’ve experimented with this diet and bodybuilding I have noticed there is a loss of 5-10 lbs on your record and recovery takes longer which is why I only advocate following this diet for two weeks cycles and then going back to eating meat with an extra 30-40g of protein.

The whole concept of this diet is that you first get your body used to and regularly functioning on lower levels of certain hormones and then shock it with a sudden increase of testosterone, DHT, HGH,etc cycling for a few weeks and then cycle back before homeostasis takes place and the effects are no longer seen. Now I have never regularly PE’d on this diet before but I will give it a try and report on what I experience in the weeks to come. Note I will be keeping up with intermittent fasting so this should be an interesting experiment all together. At the risk of enticing a “nuh-uh, uh-huh” flame way over highly debatable scientific bro-science, I say give it a try before you biasedly bitch about it.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Very interesting, thanks for the info! Does the book mention dose or time on Finasteride?

I like the idea of controlling DHT with the diet but i’m on a pretty strict diet right now and want to continue it for the next couple months.

No idea. You’ll have to ask on the Dr. Pezzi thread


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

If all this is true then wouldn’t winstrol v be effective for penile enlargement?
Me personally nor any of my buddies have had any positive experience as far as penile growth through the use of winstrol v with PE. Boldenone, now that is one hormone that has potential. I credit it with my gains. :)

Nonetheless, OP, I think it’s all wishful thinking. Regardless, I’m staying tuned to this thread. I hope you prove me wrong.

The problem is not the diminished sensitivity, actually. I just re-posted this interesting study in the Italian Forum:

J Urol. 1996 Aug;156(2 Pt 2):775-9.

The effects of androgen administration on phallic androgen receptor expression.

Levy JB , Seay TM, Tindall DJ, Husmann DA.

Source

Department of Urology, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota 55905, USA.

Abstract

PURPOSE:

Whether androgens down regulate the androgen receptor during penile development is controversial. We investigated the effects of androgens on penile androgen receptor expression.

MATERIALS AND METHODS:

We injected prepubertal hypogonadotropic hypogonadal microphallic rats with testosterone or dihydrotestosterone. Specimens were obtained at 3 (prepuberty), 9 (puberty to early postpuberty) and 12 weeks (late postpuberty). At necropsy we compared penile size and androgen receptor expression of these animals to those of age matched nontreated hypogonadotropic hypogonadal and normal controls.

RESULTS:

At age 3 weeks prepubertal androgens up regulated androgen receptor expression and significantly increased penile size compared to normal and untreated hypogonadotropic hypogonadal controls. By 9 weeks the normal down regulation of androgen receptor that occurs with maturation was present. Prepubertal androgens failed to accelerate or exaggerate the normal maturational loss of the androgen receptor. At 9 weeks penile size of normal controls and prepubertal androgen treated animals was identical. Interestingly despite down regulation of the penile androgen receptor, normal animals continued to have increases in penile size between 9 and 12 weeks, while the prepubertal androgen treated animals had no penile growth.

CONCLUSIONS:

Prepubertal androgen administration in hypogonadotropic hypogonadal animals resulted in diminutive penises in adulthood. However, the decrease in penile size was not associated with an accelerated or exaggerated down regulation of the androgen receptor. This finding coupled with continued growth of the normal control penises after androgen receptor down regulation suggests that cessation of penile growth may not be solely related to down regulation of the penile androgen receptor.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8683781

There seems to be a little confusion as to what this thread is about. This thread is NOT about chemical penis enlargement or steroids, though I am looking into that and see some promising experiments with Ronielle. What this thread is about is natural means of temporarily boosting the hormones responsible for muscle development and penis enlargement through a cycling vegan and high animal protein diet.

I can personally attest just how strong the body’s hormonal response is to changes in diet alone after it’s adapted to a certain eating style and then has to has to adapt to accept change. This will be the first time I use this diet along with PE so the results will be interesting. I’m going through some stuff so it may be a couple weeks before I make the switch. Vegan diets can be very stressful at first but after the first few weeks it gets better.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

I see. Sorry, I just read the first post in a hurry and posted a reference I thought could be interesting.

Wow.. That quote was some time ago.

No worries Marinera, I know you meant well.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

I have herd that excessive soy in the diet will lead to increased estrogen levels. Any idea if this is true? However if the goal is to shock the system this might be a good thing.

Soy does contain estrogen but not the one that directly affects testosterone. You have different forms of estrogen in your body that regulate other hormones, but this one has very little conversion into the bad estrogen. There was a study published a few years ago backing this up with the main benefit of soy being that it helps heart problems and digested faster than whey. Beyond any worries you may have it’s a descent source of high bioavailable protein, but I avoid it when going vegan because it defeats the purpose of the diet. You actually want to get your body used to functioning on hard to digest plant protein and then over dose on meat and milk. The effect is amazing btw. Last time I went vegan for a couple weeks I broke down and ate a hamburger…. an hour later I wanted to start a fight and bang the freckles off a redhead.


Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.75", Meg: 5.5", Aheg: 5.25", Heg: 4.5" - 11/18/11

Bpel: 8", Bpeg: 6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg: 5.63", Aheg: 5.38", Heg: 4.75" - 5/18/12

Bpel:+1/4", Bpeg:6", Mbeg: 5.875", Meg:+1/16", Aheg: +1/16", Heg: +1/16" - 6/18/12

Originally Posted by cammie77

I have herd that excessive soy in the diet will lead to increased estrogen levels. Any idea if this is true? However if the goal is to shock the system this might be a good thing.

I read a story “was in the news so I guess it’s liable????” that some guy who was eating Mainly soy producys started getting woman shaped tits “not fat man boobs” and was getting really sensitive nipples, and really emotional. Doctor told him to cut out all the soy stuff and in like 4 months things started getting better.


Start:7.5 BPEL X 5 MSEG

Goal: 7 MSEG

Heere We GOOooh!

I’ve heard soy is bad for you

So basically if I take a DHT blocker for a decent period of time, and then out of the blue, stop completely my penis will be more sensitive to DHT, and I’ll be larger and more sensitive to gains? Is there any long term effects of blocking DHT? Is it possible blocking it for too long can have adverse effects on your sexuality for good? Can you link me to the original post by Cya at 8? This almost makes sense, because I recently took something called VitaBeard, which at the time of purchase I had no idea blocked DHT, but immediately after taking it the first time I was experiencing some seriously negative side effects, and after about 4 days it was too much to deal with and I stopped taking it. I could feel for a full week (maybe longer) after my last time taking it that my DHT was still being blocked, but then I invested in some creatine, (which I only used 2 or 3 times legitimately) and things seemed to return to normal almost immediately. About a week after I tried the creatine, (yesterday) I measured my penis and it was absolutely massive. Now don’t go assuming it was definitely because of the DHT snapback, (it very well may have had something to with that though) because there is a number of factors as to why it may have been so large. I just want to know more about this and try to assess whether or not this theory is legitimate before I go an block my DHT again, because from my personal experience, blocking your DHT is Hell. Literally one of the worst experiences I’ve had as a man. If it pays off though, I’m willing to bare the struggle though. Most importantly I just want to know that there is no long term effects in blocking DHT and that my production levels will return to normal in a decent amount of time after ceasing to take the blocker. I’ve heard in a video online that someone took a blocker for a long term, and this led to them suffering erectile dysfunction, and things did not return to normal for 3 YEARS after discontinuing the blocker. I do not know the legitimacy of this story though. Would just like to hear some facts on the matter, and what your takes on it may be.


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