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The Chemical PE Thread

Originally Posted by startin_at_5
Excellent post and reply!

I too am looking to get a divo cup set up to alternate. I.had to order a new set of glans covers from phallosan since mine finnaly broke. I also belive in mixing things up. I would love to find a place that sells relaxin.. No clue though. Maybe a peptide place? 0.o

I would suggest the steel weighted cap from Autoextend since its easier to take off and on. I had the DIVO cup and it is not safely secure for me and took a lot of time to push enough of my glands into the cup while holding the straw tube to air our the space within the cup.


Current: BPEL - (Before 6.8' - 7') (Now 7' - 7.25')

Current: MSEG - 4.80' - 5.2'

Goal: 9x6

Originally Posted by Paradigm
I would suggest the steel weighted cap from Autoextend since its easier to take off and on. I had the DIVO cup and it is not safely secure for me and took a lot of time to push enough of my glands into the cup while holding the straw tube to air our the space within the cup.

Not sure if I’ve seen that one, I’ll take a look now
Thx!

I am about to start a PCT program after running Test. I will be using HCG and Clomid. There have been a lot of positive stories of penise growth and HCG. I am wondering if mixing DMSO with HCG/Paba and using that 3 times a week would increase my gains. Anybody tried DMSO with HCG? Results?

Originally Posted by midatlantic

I am about to start a PCT program after running Test. I will be using HCG and Clomid. There have been a lot of positive stories of penise growth and HCG. I am wondering if mixing DMSO with HCG/Paba and using that 3 times a week would increase my gains. Anybody tried DMSO with HCG? Results?

It has been tried and like all chem pe it doesn’t work. This thread is 4 years old and I have yet to read someone with a proven success story.

Jimmybob55

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55
It has been tried and like all chem pe it doesn’t work. This thread is 4 years old and I have yet to read someone with a proven success story.

You would be wrong sir… You obviously have not done your home work. Ronielle and myself have had results, as well as a host of Dr Adams actual patients. I have actually had contact with his former patients and they had results too, and knew of other patients that also did. I started at 4.8 in girth and now I am 6.75 in girth. ChemPE DOES work! You just have to be persistent and follow the guidelines.

There are reasons why it works and reasons it wont. You need to understand the process. Its like flowering plants, you may not know how to get them to flower or vegetate unless you know about light cycles. Same with ChemPE you need to know about Androgen Estrogen cycles and how penis growth happens in the first place and also why it ends. The penis will grow if there are androgen receptors, but after puberty your bones stop growing and so does your penis due to estrogen levels reaching a critical point. Then ends the growth. But if you stop estrogen and increase androgen receptors, or outpace estrogen you can get growth as that how it actually happens in the first place.

The world record holder in PE that used traction used 5000iu of HCG, and it kicks of EGF as well as T. Stretching has been shown to induce Androgen Receptors as well as IGF-1 receptors. This is where ChemPE can step in. Also there is the Priapus shot, it works for many especially those that didn’t complete full genetic growth. Say you were fat, well that keeps back the T levels when in puberty and gives you a smaller unit. In such a case the Priapus shot could do wonders. Also it you find a means to kick up AR you could get good gains as well. Ronielle did the DHT blockers then added DHT after and got girth gains beyond what he actually wanted. Anyway ChemPE can and does work so try not to throw the baby out with the bath water. I know it works I have experienced the reality and the pain of the process. I don’t jelq either. But I really should. I will add more normal techniques as time goes, but for now I just wanted to see if this really worked if you actually dedicated yourself to the time and discipline and pain it actually takes.

For all those enthusiasts out there don’t let the nay says sway you. This does and can work… You just have to understand the basic principles involved. BTW there are human studies that show HCG can positively impact penis growth. Hormone states are paramount really…

Inuic…

On HCG there are a few studies out there on Humans after maturity, this is important. They did have micro penis and small testicles yes to start with, but it did kick up there T level and the penis got bigger and they were below and above maturity age. The patients’ mean age was 18.9 years (range, 12 to 24 years).

Penile growth in response to human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) treatment in patients with idiopathic hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism - PubMed

Look up info on the world record holder for PE, and is use of 5000iu of HCG every 15 days. He used brute force to our pace his own estrogen production and traction at the same time. His force based routines kick up AR and IGR-1 receptors too, and HCG will kick out the androgen T and that’s the root of DHT, and when DHT gets to the Androgen receptors your going to grow…

The use of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) for penile reconstruction in bladder exstrophy and total epispadias patients

RESULTS:
HCG caused a mean increase in penile length of 1.8 cm (p < 0.01) and in circumference of 1.2 cm (p < 0.05) as well as improved local vascularity in all patients.

There really just needs to be some real studies done on just pure ChemPE, but until then this is all we have to go by, stuff like this, and the reality of those that have dared to actually take a stab at it..! Pun intended lol!

Inuic

Ok so what has worked for you then? I’ve seen a lot of posts about various potentially helpful chemicals but not sure what you used to gain. A clear post on what you used to gain would be nice, I know doubleweener did not have success with chemical PE, he seemed well informed. I agree on the importance of hormones and metabolism in general, I think this is one of the main reasons, if not the only one, why some people train a lot and gain a lot, while others can’t seem to get anything going.

“30 patients were administered 250-500 IU HCG intramuscularly 2 times per week for 3 weeks before reconstructive surgery”

I wonder if it matters where the injection site is?

I’m going to be experimenting these next couple of months continuing my maximum natural DHT internally through supplements, dht externally on penis and starting next week adding Clomid and proviron to the mix. Once I’m done with that cycle experiment I’ll do the exact opposite and block the hell out of it and deprive the body of it as much as I can. Then after a month restart.

I wonder if I could use Rogaine on my unit to strip the DHT from it and if I can I wonder if I could use it with dmso to drive it deeper for further receptors to be affected.

Just a thought

Startin

Rogaine has no effect on DHT.


Starting Stats - 5.5 BPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 BPEL x 6.5 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)

Ty boner,

I didn’t know and was about to research it. Thx for saving me the time. Is there any DHT blocker that could be used topically on the penis?

S@5

The potential side effects could/would be disastrous. There are no publicly available DHT inhibitors that do not go systemic. Some men have suffered side effects from systemic DHT inhibition that completely ruined their sexual function.


Starting Stats - 5.5 BPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 BPEL x 6.5 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)

Originally Posted by boner7484
Rogaine has no effect on DHT.

Not even topically?

Hello to all the members.

I wanted to know if the PE chimical works.

I wanted to know how to do.

What about doing PE after heavy squats or deadlifts?Such intense workout sessions are proven to increase testosterone in the body.I personally feel a lot of sexual power, hours after I m done with the workout.

It’s the first time I hear any claims about HCG and penis size.

The studies linked above seems to have been done with men who had some kind of diagnosis, i.e., hypogonadism and micropenis, etc.

I hypothize that HCG won’t make any difference with healthy individuals who already have good levels of testosterone, FSH and LH.

I used HCG when trying TRT and I used only HCG for a period of months at a time when quitting TRT. I had no penis growth during this period.

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