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The Chemical PE Thread

Originally Posted by ravenbluesky
I have a question, are there any lasting effects to erection quality after using this method? Or is it just during the term of use?

Depends on how you define “lasting”. With the technique I try to succeed, you can have a positive effect that may last up to a few days (bigger flaccid, faster erections).
And then there is a part of the spectrum of erection disorder therapy that uses PGE1 for ED treatment. Admittedly, we are (by far) not in the know of all the biochemical effects of PGE1 on a cellular level.


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Hi everyone

I tried to read all the conversation but something is not really clear as I’m not mother tongue.

Could you please suggest me what can be (in your opinion) the best mix of products to gain some length? And what about the protocol used?

Are injections obligatory or can I try with DMSO first? Thank you and sorry again, please help me.

Hi yyyx,

Since chemical PE is still in its infancy, up to this date there is no “best” mix for length gains. There are several APIs that, at least in theory, should be very promising for tissue relaxation and re-modelling. Some of which are very expensive and hence lack the experimentation and practical experience made by chemical PE practitioners.


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Can you do some examples of promising APIs? Thank you

I would consider IGF1, Relaxin R-2 and VEGF very promising in combination with heavy exercise and/or the basic chemical PE with PGE1.

The issue is, research-grade quality these APIs are rather expensive, and from online merchants you never know what bunk you get.


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I’ve always felt that there is a chemical answer as there is for everything in the body. I just got too old and too impatient to keep on looking. Dr. Adams is the same Dr. Adams that wrote the book many tears ago about PE through starving the AR of DHT for a period and then increasing DHT 10 fold for a period?

From what little research I’ve seen, it doesn’t seem as if they are the same person.

Been using cannabis oil for a couple of weeks now and my cock seems to be hanging longer.

Just to give an update of what Ive been using lately regarding chem PE:
- PGE1,papaverine,IGF,DHT 1 -3,4 times /week.
- Almost daily application of pgf 2 alpha solution.
- Extending/pumping lightly on off days.

Been doing chem pe for about 2 months(started only with pge 1 and added one product at a time) I noticed a girth increase(measured this by visualizing the gap between my index and thumb finger when grabbing my cock)

The weird thing is that I get injection anxiety almost everytime.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

I still do get anxiety especially after a needle broke off into my shaft. Hard to get past that memory… LOL…

Been wonder how the increase of Elastin may impact the process of penis elongation. Also was wondering if anyone knew if collagen grows with latitude or longitude or both or If elastin grows one way and collagen the other…

Saw this:

This damage to the blood vessels leads to reduced levels of oxygen which results in increased collagen formation. This affects the elasticity in the penis by upsetting the balance between collagen and elastin in the penis. In the penis, the ideal ratio between collagen and smooth muscle (which contains elastin) is 48% (collagen) : 52% (smooth muscle which contains elastin). When this ratio is upset by an increased proportion of collagen (i.e. a relative decrease in the proportion of elastin) the penis becomes less elastic.

Elastin plays a crucial part in the size of the erection of the penis. It is like a rubber band that you stretch… This is what the penis does – it stretches in response to blood flow.

Elastin is a protein that coils and recoils like a spring within the

elastic fibers of connective tissue and accounts for the stretching

of structures such as the skin, blood vessels, heart, intestines and

penis. Elastin functions in connective tissue function together with

collagen. Whereas collagen provides rigidity to connective tissue,

elastic provides elasticity. Elastin can be stretched up to 150% of

its length and helps determine the stretched length and width of

the penis. The synthesis of elastin occurs throughout a lifetime.

Disruption of elastin or a decrease in elastin content will result in

penile deformity, erectile dysfunction and shortening and narrowing

of the penis. PD plaque consists primarily of collagen and this

plaque has an abnormally low content of elastin.

The article “Wall Tissue Remodeling Regulates Longitudinal Tension in Arteries” in the journal Circulation Research describes how changes in blood pressure or blood flow induced arterial remodeling that normalizes mechanical loads that are imposed on arterial tissue. In other words, increased blood flow/pressure in the artery forces the artery to refashion itself to accommodate the stress. Additionally, the researchers found that this arterial remodeling; “involved tissue elaboration, [where] endothelial cell replication rates were increased by more than 50-fold and smooth muscle cell replication rates were increased by more than 15-fold, and substantially elevated elastin and collagen contents were recorded.”

Originally Posted by inuic
Been wonder how the increase of Elastin may impact the process of penis elongation. Also was wondering if anyone knew if collagen grows with latitude or longitude or both or If elastin grows one way and collagen the other…

Saw this:

This damage to the blood vessels leads to reduced levels of oxygen which results in increased collagen formation. This affects the elasticity in the penis by upsetting the balance between collagen and elastin in the penis. In the penis, the ideal ratio between collagen and smooth muscle (which contains elastin) is 48% (collagen) : 52% (smooth muscle which contains elastin). When this ratio is upset by an increased proportion of collagen (i.e. a relative decrease in the proportion of elastin) the penis becomes less elastic.

Elastin plays a crucial part in the size of the erection of the penis. It is like a rubber band that you stretch… This is what the penis does – it stretches in response to blood flow.

Hey inuic,
Regarding your phrase ” smooth muscle (which contains elastin) ” , it would seem that if you use cialis/viagra frequently you don’t get a decrease in smooth muscle content.,but quite the contrary as I’ve seen in a couple studies. Anyway, I think enhancing blood flow down there limits any potential negative increase in collagen.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by inuic
I still do get anxiety especially after a needle broke off into my shaft. Hard to get past that memory… LOL…

Yeah, I remember that story… ouch. Do you still use 31 g or you’ve switched to 30 g ? The 30 g seems better for this.

Regarding the anxiety, I don’t use autoinjector so maybe that should help ? The advantage in manually injecting is that if you feel any pain while starting to insert the needle you can remove it and try again. One disadvantage is that you feel every tissue which the needle penetrates,as I insert the needle very slowly with the thought of minimizing pain and scar formation( I think that if you insert rapidly being more traumatizing, you get more chances of scar formation)


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"


Last edited by alin : 06-22-2014 at .

Inuic what gains have you achieved thus far with Chem PE. Alin was it you who went to Dr Charles Runels? If so what increase did you get?

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