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The Chemical PE Thread

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22568219
“CONCLUSION:

SGYY can significantly upregulate the expressions of VEGF, IGF and Akt1 in the corpus cavernosum penis of AED rats, and improve the function of blood vascular endothelium, which is probably an important mechanism of SGYY capsule acting on AED.”

There isn’t much information on how to purchase this Shugan Yiyang capsule
http://xyerectus.com/?p=3181


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

That’s a really interesting article. I’m having a pretty difficult time finding more information about the compound though. Lots of studies, but no mention of where to acquire it at all. Seems to be an herbal blend, but again, little info is to be found on what it’s actually a blend of. Hmm…

I don’t believe in chemicals.


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To bad for you bro, we do and it works. Besides you are made of such biochemical. Fly away if the atmosphere is unpleasing, this is NOT for everyone.

inuic

Ok, found some information on what it contains

http://www.gzcci.com/News2/2591.html

Ingredients: Tribulus, Radix, hives, earthworm, leeches, Aspongopus, purple shoot flowers, Cnidium, Polygala, plant, the dodder, Schisandra, Morinda, centipedes, Shichangpu.

hives, earthworm, leeches ? Those mad chinese:)


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Well its likely the Tribulus anyway…

Inuic

Hey all,

As of late I’ve been fascinated with the use of various different vasodialators mentioned in the patent examples. Especially the more bizarre ones. I originally thought that perhaps the reason for a complicated mix was to ease pain, but lately I’ve been wondering if the mix is so complicated and precise for a reason. Especially because, although all of these compounds grant an erection, they all do so via slightly different actions. From the patent, it seems the most complicated mix is Ex. 6, featuring a blend of: Atropine / Chlorpromazine / Papavarine / “prostaglandin” / Viagra / DHT.

Interested to hear some opinions on this. Also, if anyone has any insight on Atropine or Chlorpromazine, that would make for an interesting read as well. So far all I’ve found is this, although I haven’t had much time on my hands to research lately.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10332484
“The action mechanism of relaxation effect of atropine on the isolated rabbit corpus cavernosum.”
“Atropine has both a contraction effect at lower concentrations and a relaxation effect at higher concentrations on cavernosal smooth muscle. It is presumed that the relaxation at higher concentrations is mediated via increasing intracellular calcium sequestration”

Originally Posted by inuic
Well its likely the Tribulus anyway…

Inuic

Could be,but I didn’t find any medical record of tribulus having direct on vegf, igf 1 upregulation of corpus cavernosum. It could be that the strange combination of elements of that compound act like that. As we all know chinesse consume all kinds of shit, but it seems this shit is studied. Gimme some earthworms for breakfast. :)

p.s: I tried taking tribulus again a couple of weeks ago, but it seriously disturbs my sleep, same as when I tried it a couple of years ago. The sexual effect is present everytime though.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"


Last edited by alin : 06-01-2014 at .

Originally Posted by Atmospheric
Hey all,

As of late I’ve been fascinated with the use of various different vasodialators mentioned in the patent examples. Especially the more bizarre ones. I originally thought that perhaps the reason for a complicated mix was to ease pain, but lately I’ve been wondering if the mix is so complicated and precise for a reason. Especially because, although all of these compounds grant an erection, they all do so via slightly different actions. From the patent, it seems the most complicated mix is Ex. 6, featuring a blend of: Atropine / Chlorpromazine / Papavarine / “prostaglandin” / Viagra / DHT.

Interested to hear some opinions on this. Also, if anyone has any insight on Atropine or Chlorpromazine, that would make for an interesting read as well. So far all I’ve found is this, although I haven’t had much time on my hands to research lately.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10332484
“The action mechanism of relaxation effect of atropine on the isolated rabbit corpus cavernosum.”
“Atropine has both a contraction effect at lower concentrations and a relaxation effect at higher concentrations on cavernosal smooth muscle. It is presumed that the relaxation at higher concentrations is mediated via increasing intracellular calcium sequestration”

Hey man,

You are spot on with the combination of vasodilatators having additional possible benefit. I know that when I use even a low amount of papaverine (3 mg) to my usual pge 1 dose it makes a big difference.I think that using lower amounts of papaverine and pge 1 in combination can give a better expansion than even a big dose of each compound taken separately. IIRC DW experienced the same


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"


Last edited by alin : 06-01-2014 at .

When you say expansion, do you mean past your natural limit, or just better expansion than when using other compounds?

I realize that, after looking over the fancier stuff, I should pay fair attention to the basics of this whole equation. If Dr Adams’ patients and those from the patent gained on just (mainly) a mix of vasodialators, there’s got to be something special about using all of these compounds in unison. Looking past the concept of long erect time and the addition of the potentiators, of course.

Also, I agree about the stranger ingredients in the SGYY tablets possibly having beneficial effect. Definitely an interesting product, it seems.

Yes, past natural limit, an example will be that with caverject I get about 90% - 100% EQ, adding papaverine goes to 100% - 110% EQ and is also easier to maintain the erection. Although if I use past 3 mg of papaverine(I tried 6 mg) I get more pain without additonal expansion.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by inuic
Hey Guys Im back after a long sojourn…

I have injected HGH directly also, and by the advice of Dr Runels, whom I got a Priapus Shot from as well, 2 of them. I have also managed to successfully perform my own PRP injection successfully via the use of my centrifuge and a PRP kit. I just used the kit for my wifes boobs, and it worked well and made her nipples fuller as if they exfoliated out to their potential and became full bottle tip nipples when they were more flat. I could have used it on my penis for a Priapus Shot but I didnt. I had to draw blood all that, but my kit included it all. It was a great kit out of South Africa. So the reality is you can do it yourself and it has been done and usefully so I might add, my wifes boobs also gained in general volume.

I have read somewhere that there exists a synergy between IGF-1 and HGH also and have noted myself that when I take HGH in my penis or IGF-1 or together that the PGE-1 is more effective to the point of worry sometimes. But I presume this is due to the level of Testosterone level raising due to the HGH or IGF-1. I have also noted via other means that raise my testosterone lick HCG or direct T or even DHT, all seem to make the PGE-1 work better, stronger or longer.

I got 10 PRP kits, but limited on the blood draw stuff, dont need calcium chloride because I have a mechanical activator now. PRP kits are costly so do your best to find any you can afford. The ones I got from South Africa cost 50 bucks at first now they are a 100 but they no longer export to the USA so that sucks… Anyway I found someone else but it like is a one time deal. I just moved and my lab is not setup so some time down the line I will get to reporting on my own Priapus Shot experiments

Inuic

inuic, how long have you used hCG and in what doses ? Any good effects from it ?


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by hightower
Thank you, that’s comforting to know since I haven’t experienced any purple coloration.

As to my other question, have you found that the addition of IGF-lr3 potentiates the actual erection caused by pge1 or trimix? It seemed that way to me but I haven’t found that mentioned in other threads. Trying to figure out if I should be adding the IGF dose to my typical (ED) trimix dose or dial down the trimix dosage.

Hey man, I thought of this post of yours today whilst re-reading one of the various Dr Adams patents. One of them focuses on IGF1 to improve erectile function pretty heavily [ http://www.google.com/patents/US20110263498 ] (although no mention of enlargement, as that’s not the topic of the document) and in the examples section, describes this exact result. I, like DW, wonder if you may have been lucky enough to find real IGF.

I have a question, are there any lasting effects to erection quality after using this method? Or is it just during the term of use?


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