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The Chemical PE Thread

Yeah mine is the 2.5%..

Wow the burn of PGE-1 for me really depends on where I inject. Near the base on the right I have way less burn, if I do so most anywhere else it really burns a good deal more. So see what works for you.

But to the business. PGF2a is strange. Its effects last for at least a day and it make you narrow up and get more dense. It constricts, so if you ever go past the 4 hour mark you can use this stuff as it will take away your erection. I mixed mine with Human Relaxin 2, IGF-1 and 2 as well as the Follistatin. It left a strange burn all day and at first kept me from a full erection, but later I was up but could tell it was there still restricting my expansion.

Inuic

Originally Posted by inuic

There is an island nation I get my DHT from in a tube. I want to say Crete or something like or near there… Anyway by their law you can get a prescription via communication with the Dr about your symptoms. Once you answer the q and a, if you qualify based on your symptoms you get a prescription. And it cant be for PE either… Low T or something else, etc.

I found the website. The office is in Cypress. The dose of DHT is 2.5%. I’ll be filling out the questionnaire and putting my order in within the next few days. Thanks for the info, inuic.

Anything to help the cause…

Wow, anyway really the PGF2a stuff is no joke, its effects are long lasting. It does interact with the PGE-1 in someway, they seem to clash cause one expands the other contracts the veins and so forth. I noticed the effects of PGE-1 for a while really but I like them because it gives me the plumps and keeps me expanded residually afterwards for a period of time. But so does the PGF2a, but in reverse, it keeps me narrow and dense and gets in the way of my morning erection. I reminded me of when PGE-1 comes on from the bottom up the whole shaft does not get hard at once it does so from the bottom up for me, but I take shots near my base though. It seems to stem out from where you take it… But if I take it in the wrong spot it burns much worse and for longer, but get the same effects when all said and done. So I stick to spots that dont hurt as much. Anyway it took time for the PGF2a effects to ware off, more then 24hrs. I could feel it deep and when I got hard it seemed it got rock hard and there was a low level burn deep in the core of my entire CC and when I got hard it flared up and felt good to jelq and I dont usually like that but it helped and felt good to do in some strange non sexual way.

But I did take a cocktail of stuff at once after the PGE-1 sets in… After erect I took a combo of PGF2a, IGF-1 and 2 as well as Human Relaxin-2 and Follistatin. I have yet to try my ACE, I will do so when my costly Follistatin is gone…

Inuic

Got come BCP 157 today, about to try it out with the same ideas in mind I have for TB4… Not to mention my neck is a trick neck and I am going to try it there too….

What scares me is the idea of using some of the known peptides together. Like TB4 and HR2 and Oxytocin….But dude this may be great for NO production… But these are a few that can have extra added effects you can feel pronounced along with PGF2a of course. with PGF2a you can feel its impact in you your belly and gut, so I keep my dose low and will likely keep it that way… perhaps once a week for the PGF2a as its out there…. Plus I like to maintain the plumps…

Peptide Bioregulators, gene switches that could replace stem cells!

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/25…ource=YMExpress

What their secret research uncovered - that was used for two decades on many thousands of men and women - was a remarkable link between short chain peptides and DNA.

Now their published research is in the open and it identifies that each organ / gland / tissue uses a highly specific short chain peptide…

…the Russian research groups are showing that each of the concentrated peptide bioregulators so far examined interact with particular strands of DNA - effectively and very specifically activating repair and regenerative processes….

they could be set to ‘out do’ stem cells. Why? Because this peptide therapy is relatively cheap, highly specific, can be taken orally and doesn’t require any suppression of the immune system to operate fully.

Professor Khavinson and his award winning team at the St Petersburg Institute of Biogerontology have discovered that each organ / gland has a biological reserve and despite the origin of the tissue they have studied, incredibly each one is always set at 42%

But compared to a hormone replacement therapy this is interesting, since hormones would require almost daily application. But these peptide bioregulators aren’t hormones, they are acting on the gland concerned to ‘encourage’ it to become active and effectively ‘younger’ by triggering / activating the DNA responsible.

There’s more to learn including the synergistic interaction of the peptide bioregulators themselves

TESTOLUTEN® The testes peptide can be expected to provide for free testosterone level increases, as well as improving the sperm amount and their motility.

VENTFORT® is the peptide bioregulator from blood vessels. Its action has been shown to improve vascular wall tissue, normalise metabolism in such cells and help to regular vascular systems. Professor Khavinson has suggested to us that Ventfort, due to its improvement of blood flow is synergistic with all other peptide bioregulators.

These are the two that interest me… Part of my ideation is that anything that might increase T and sperm and blood flow is like to aid and abet in the healing and or regrowth process involved with PE

Whats really interesting is that it sites that these sorts of bioregulators are very specific to each organ! Well if they can localize the short DNA chains involved for the Testicles then they likely can for the PENIS itself!

What might that mean?! I dont know… but it does intrigue me in the extreme.!

This for sure requires all the research hounds around here to pony up some sniffing around because this may bear some interesting fruit perhaps…

There are links to some research studies too, but some outside info is needed as well…

EACH ORGAN?!!! Specific DNA Chain? Activate “healing and or regrowth process”, “they are acting on the gland concerned to ‘encourage’ it to become active and effectively ‘younger’ by triggering / activating the DNA responsible”???

Things that make ya go hmm???

Inuic…

Strange thing is when I was 16 I had a vision about activating DNA specific to the Penis to impact growth and had remembered this vision Friday at age 43 and then suddenly got an email from anti aging about this information. I was like Synchronicity…!

Originally Posted by inuic
Wow, anyway really the PGF2a stuff is no joke, its effects are long lasting. It does interact with the PGE-1 in someway, they seem to clash cause one expands the other contracts the veins and so forth. I noticed the effects of PGE-1 for a while really but I like them because it gives me the plumps and keeps me expanded residually afterwards for a period of time. But so does the PGF2a, but in reverse, it keeps me narrow and dense and gets in the way of my morning erection. I reminded me of when PGE-1 comes on from the bottom up the whole shaft does not get hard at once it does so from the bottom up for me, but I take shots near my base though. It seems to stem out from where you take it… But if I take it in the wrong spot it burns much worse and for longer, but get the same effects when all said and done. So I stick to spots that dont hurt as much. Anyway it took time for the PGF2a effects to ware off, more then 24hrs. I could feel it deep and when I got hard it seemed it got rock hard and there was a low level burn deep in the core of my entire CC and when I got hard it flared up and felt good to jelq and I dont usually like that but it helped and felt good to do in some strange non sexual way.

But I did take a cocktail of stuff at once after the PGE-1 sets in… After erect I took a combo of PGF2a, IGF-1 and 2 as well as Human Relaxin-2 and Follistatin. I have yet to try my ACE, I will do so when my costly Follistatin is gone…

Inuic

PGF2A and it’s effects are definitely fascinating. One part of your post really stuck out to me:
“It gives me the plumps and keeps me expanded residually afterwards for a period of time. But so does the PGF2a, but in reverse, it keeps me narrow and dense”

This particular mechanism (the combination of frequent, simultaneous expanding/contracting ) was pretty much the same reasoning I had as to why it would be so beneficial of a compound, especially when mixed with the other PGs. It just seems really tricky to utilize. Fantastic to hear that it’s been giving some notable results though!

Well guys Im still at it… But super busy, I am moving out of State. From Cali to Oregon. Pretty big deal, loads of Cash and Time, new job, kids and school, special needs kids, kid with dibetes, all sorts of details to contend with so I may not be posting to much real soon. Dont even have intenet planned out just yet for my new spot up north. Anyway still doing much of my regiment, and will post any changes. Set to Try the ACE when I get to Oregon,

Inuic

Inuic,

All the best on moving and family affairs!

It’s always a pleasure to read your posts. For my part, I have done a few more injections of PGE-1 and PGE-2 (and only those two), which have so far produced strong erections with very little pain, yet without the plumpness of PGF2a.


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DW, so you’ve stopped using papaverine ? I noticed that you said adding it to the mix it gives better/stronger erections…isn’t this the case anymore?


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

I haven’t totally stopped using it. I’m more on my xperimental way to a dual approach with PGE-1 and PGE-2 used to soften the tunica in week 1 and APIs with more emphasis on smooth muscle angiogenesis in week 2. Rinse. Repeat.

In the combination PGE-1 and PGE-2, I do not see any use or synergy with Papaverine (yet), neither biochemically nor from a user’s standpoint (especially regarding pain). With PGE-2 added, the pain from PGE-1 is strongly reduced and you can keep the PGE-1 dose relatively low (in comparison to the otherwise necessary almost exponential dose increase). The day-after soreness from PGE-1 is still there, however.

The way I am trying to set things up, Papaverine has its place in week 2.


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PGE2 effects and interactions

Prostaglandin E2 and insulin-like growth factor I interact to enhance proliferation of theca externa cells from chicken prehierarchical follicles
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc…098882313000439

Modulation of insulin-like growth factor 1 levels in human osteoarthritic subchondral bone osteoblasts
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc…756328205003881

PGE2 Stimulates VEGF Expression in Endothelial Cells via ERK2/JNK1 Signaling Pathways
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc…006291X01954944


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Is relaxin-2 site specific ? Like if I inject my penis will it takeit up instantly or does it go systematic and will break down the collagen in my face and make sure it doesn’t rebuild back up ? I’d like to know before I buy some and inject in my dick. I injeted -1 Lr3 I think toof 5 to 6 times at 60 mcg per dose

Originally Posted by onemanorgy
Is relaxin-2 site specific ? Like if I inject my penis will it takeit up instantly or does it go systematic and will break down the collagen in my face and make sure it doesn’t rebuild back up ? I’d like to know before I buy some and inject in my dick. I injeted -1 Lr3 I think toof 5 to 6 times at 60 mcg per dose

Hopefully it doesn’t become systemic and you wake up the next morning without your ass cheeks. JK.

Chems are something you should use w/ a cockring. Also look @ the half-lifes of the stuff you’re injecting. Both in serum/blood and tissue.

I haven’t researched it as I haven’t found a source. I don’t want to get happy on a peptide and figure out that I can’t obtain it anywhere.
Geo has relaxin, but on professionalmuscle, it was said that it had to be bunk as the price was so low.
Doesn’t seem like anyone there has tested it or if anyone knows what responses to look for in order to determine if it’s legit.
It’s not like PGE where you can determine if it’s working after injection, as w/ PGE you get an erection. Not sure what positives to look for after relaxin injections.

I’m under the impression that relaxin is site-specific but can go systemic depending on factors such as dose, administration, and whether or not a ring is worn. Same rule of thumb as most of the compounds used for this sort of thing, I’d imagine.

I’ve been curious about Geo’s 5mg/$50 RLN-2 as well. As far as I know, it *could* be legit, only because there’s been no reports of anyone testing it. The Geo PGE was deemed bunk, though, so that may or may not give an idea as to the quality of their other stuff.

As far as signs of legit RLN, perhaps Inuic can chime in when he decides to return, as I believe he’s used it most, but from what he described in some of his posts was an actual relaxed feeling.

Also, DW, I’m excited to check out those links you’ve posted. I’ve been super short on free time lately and have been itching to get into researching some more, again. It still amazes me how synergistic every compound needed is with one another. I just wish it wasn’t so hard to find legit IGF LR3. If only a pro lab would sell to normal people…

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