Testosterone

While injecting testosterone increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, it will reduce

Collagen synthesis by more than 50% Wouldn’t this help with stretching the ligaments?

Bumping this up for all you medical types.

Don’t inject testosterone unless you know all about Post Cycle Therapy. Even then, you may not get back to as you were.

Don’t worry I don’t inject anything without years of research.

Bump for all you doctors. Surprised at the lack of interest.

I’m no doctor, But the safest way to release testosterone and HGH is to undertake anaerobic exercise.
Short bursts of intense exercise such as, set of sprints 70-100m sprints is proven to produce 500% more
HGH and Test. In men from 25-60+

Maybe injecting works better, sounds very risky though. If you interested check out the link below.

I bought this book and it’s awesome, the facts are scientifically backed up through years of research.

Fitness programs - Sprint cardio exercise from Ready Set Go Fitness

Also not a doctor, but I am interested in the collagen theory since it makes up many of the penile tissues, and I’ve also wondered about steroids and PE. I have been reading many threads on it here and I’m not sure there is a consensus (and some doctors have posted in these threads.) Test may help gains, or, other steroids which increase collagen synthesis may be better, as the tissues will heal faster.

There is still debate between those who think maximal healing is more effective and those who think it isn’t. You may be interested in IPR (Inflammation, Proliferation, and Remodelling) theory which attempts to manipulate collagen to increase gains (I personally have no experience with this theory.)

So one should sprint with a hanger on?

Lol No don’t sprint with a Hanger on.

But if you want more HGH and Test in the bloodstream why not take some exercise and continue
Your routine and see if stretching ones ligaments is more effective.

That’s all.

The burst in testosterone after sprinting is only temporary so it wouldn’t have any expected significant effect from testosterone

I’m also interested in trying some test if it could help with gains. I know that it would shut down my natural production but I’m sure I can recover from that with proper preparation, as I’ve done in the past, but in the past I didn’t do any PE. Yes, it made my erection bigger adding maybe 0.5-1 cm length and girth , but now I would like to try it combined with PE.

I think there was some discussion regarding testosterone and “strengthening” the ligaments , so with the supposition it could slow down gains, but another point of interest is that while it increases protein synthesis , I think it would be a good addition to a PE.

Any thoughts ?

Anyone tried testosterone-aided PE ? I’ve read some threads here , but I don’t think they were very conclusive.

Thank you.

p.s: I’m saying this in a context like this : you have normal natural levels of testosterone in your blood , but the question is if you could benefit from increased levels of teststerone , by decreasing recovery time, improving protein synthesis and stuff like that.

1) The 50 times figure sounds overblown. Do you have a cite for this?
2) Collagen is a protein; in fact, it’s the most abundant protein in the body. So what gives?

Modesto,what are your thoughts on adding testo in the "mix" ? I’ve tried "pubmeding" some testosterone studies and it’s effects on collagen, but I didn’t found any conclusive.

Testosterone and estrogen influence collagen type I production in coronary artery and aortic fibroblasts

http://www.scie ncedirect.com/s … 684b4c3e85bb9b6

This in an excerpt from andro penis manual

As a counter argument :

“Anabolic-androgenic steroid treatment can impair tissue remodeling in the tendons of animals undergoing physical exercise by downregulating [decreasing] matrix metallopeptidase activity [an enzyme outside fibroblasts involved with assembling fibers], thus increasing the potential for tendon injury.”

Marqueti RC, et al. Androgenic-Anabolic Steroids Associated With Mechanical Loading Inhibit Matrix Metallopeptidase Activity and Affect the Remodeling of the Achilles Tendon in Rats. American Journal of Sports Medicine 34 (2006) 1274-80.

This is so confusing, come on people, say some words.

The only support I can find for this claim on the Andro-Penis website is this study:

All of the men in that study had hypogonadism, meaning low testosterone, and micropenis. Without testosterone, penises don’t grow normally during embryological development or puberty.

It’s really hard to understand what the study is saying. It’s written in very confusing language (perhaps deliberately?). It appears they’re comparing penis growth between a first group that received T therapy for 1 year and a second group that received the same T therapy for 1 year but then continued for another 6 months, during which time they also used an Andro-Penis.

The guys in the second group, who were on hormone therapy longer and used an andro-penis, grew on average an additional 2.5 cm. Curiously, the 2.5 cm growth was “estimated,” which may mean it was not even measured.

It is hard to apply these results to normal men. First, all these men started out with hypogonadism. Even if you believe the “estimated” results, there’s no telling whether T plus andro-penis would do anything remotely similar in men with normal hormones. In fact, the hormones of the men in the study were merely replaced to a “normal level.” It is unclear that boosting the hormone levels of men with already normal levels would do anything.

Second, those poor guys all had micropenis. They hadn’t had their penile growth spurt yet. It’s not reasonable to think that a man who has had a normal puberty and normal penile growth could see the same type of response.

Third, a side effect of hypogonadism is obesity. It can be expected that the men who received hormone therapy for an additional 6 months lost weight, and that the weight loss reduced their fat pads and therefore increased their “estimated” penis lengths. From the pictures in the study, it really looks like these guys got thinner. That alone could explain some of the “gains.”

In summary, I don’t think there’s any reason to think that, for a man with normal hormones and penis size, taking hormones will do anything to accelerate the effects of PE.